Problems involving Trigonometric Identities

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving problems involving trigonometric identities, specifically focusing on two distinct problems that involve right triangles and angle calculations. Participants explore various approaches to derive solutions using trigonometric functions and identities.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that for the first problem, assuming the lower left angle is a right angle leads to the formation of two right triangles, using the tangent function to relate the angles and sides.
  • Another participant suggests using the identity for tangent of double angles to derive an equation involving x, which can be solved.
  • In the second problem, a participant describes the equation of a blue line and calculates the slope, leading to the determination of various angles in the triangle formed by the lines.
  • There is a concern expressed about the complexity of the first problem if the assumption of a right angle is incorrect, indicating potential complications with multiple unknowns.
  • A later reply reiterates the calculations for the second problem, confirming the derived slope and angle measures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing assumptions regarding the angles in the first problem, leading to uncertainty about the approach. While some calculations are confirmed, the overall discussion does not reach a consensus on the best method or assumptions for solving the problems.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the angles in the first problem, which may affect the validity of the proposed solutions. The complexity of the equations in the first problem is noted, but no specific resolutions are provided.

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What are the step-by-step in solving these problems?
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For (1) I assume the lower left angle is a right angle. Then we have two right triangles. For the smaller right triangle, $tan(\theta)= \frac{5}{x}$. For the larger, $tan(\theta+ \alpha)= tan(2\theta)= \frac{5+ 8}{x}= \frac{13}{x}$.

For $tan(2\theta)$ you can use the identity $tan(2\theta)= \frac{2 tan(\theta)}{1- tan^2(\theta)}$.

Since the first equation says that $tan(\theta)= \frac{5}{x}$, the second says $\frac{\frac{10}{x}}{1- \frac{25}{x^2}}= \frac{13}{x}$ that you can solve for x.
 
For (2) the blue line is given by 6x+ 7y= 60 or y= -(6/7)x+ 60/7. Its slope is -6/7 so the "exterior angle" of that triangle is arctan(-6/7)= 139.4 degrees. The interior angle is 180- 139.4= 40.6 degrees. Since $\theta= 60$ degrees the third angle, where the red line crosses the base is 180- 60- 40.6= 120- 40.6= 79.4 degrees. So the slope of the red line is tan(79.4)= 5.34.
y= 5.34(x- x_0)+ y_0 where (x_0, y_0) is any point on the line. We are told that (3, 6) is such a point.
 
Country Boy said:
For (1) I assume the lower left angle is a right angle.

If not, the problem becomes quite messy ... 3 unknown sides & one unknown angle. I was able to come up with four equations, but I'll be damned if I would make a "by hand" attempt at solving them for x, y, & z.
 
Country Boy said:
For (2) the blue line is given by 6x+ 7y= 60 or y= -(6/7)x+ 60/7. Its slope is -6/7 so the "exterior angle" of that triangle is arctan(-6/7)= 139.4 degrees. The interior angle is 180- 139.4= 40.6 degrees. Since $\theta= 60$ degrees the third angle, where the red line crosses the base is 180- 60- 40.6= 120- 40.6= 79.4 degrees. So the slope of the red line is tan(79.4)= 5.34.
y= 5.34(x- x_0)+ y_0 where (x_0, y_0) is any point on the line. We are told that (3, 6) is such a point.
Got it! Thank You so much!
 

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