Problems with limits at infinity within improper integrals

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral ##\int_{2}^{\infty} ue^{-u} du##, particularly focusing on the behavior of the integrand as the upper limit approaches infinity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the limit of the integral as the upper bound approaches infinity and questions the interaction between the terms ##e^{-b}## and ##(-b-1)## in the limit. Other participants raise points about the nature of indeterminate forms such as ∞/∞ and the implications for the limit evaluation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the limit and discussing the nature of indeterminate forms. There is no explicit consensus on the outcome of the integral, but questions about the behavior of the terms involved are being actively examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the concept of limits at infinity and the conditions under which certain terms approach zero or infinity, which are critical to understanding the convergence of the integral.

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Homework Statement




##\int_{2}^{\infty} ue^{-u} du##


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was find the family of functions described by the indefinite integral ##\int ue^{-u} du## then found the limit as b increases without bound. $$=\lim_{b\rightarrow \infty} -ue^{-u}-e^{-u}\mid_{2}^{b}$$ $$=\lim_{b\rightarrow \infty} \Big(-be^{-b}-e^{-b}\Big)~ -~ \Big(-2e^{-2}-e^{-2}\Big)$$ $$=\lim_{b\rightarrow \infty} e^{-b} \Big(-b-1\Big) + 3e^{-2}$$

My problem is trying to remember when ##e^{-b}## is approaching 0 and ##\Big(-b-1\Big)## is getting infinitely more negative...do they "cancel" each other out? Does that part of the limit approach 0 instead of ∞? And then does that mean that the definite integral converges at ##3e^{-2}## ?
 
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hi ninfinity! :smile:
ninfinity said:
My problem is trying to remember when ##e^{-b}## is approaching 0 and ##\Big(-b-1\Big)## is getting infinitely more negative...do they "cancel" each other out? Does that part of the limit approach 0 instead of ∞? And then does that mean that the definite integral converges at ##3e^{-2}## ?

you're asking whether be-b -> 0

that's b/eb

what does eb/b -> ? :wink:
 
Isn't that ∞/∞? That doesn't make sense.
 
what does b3/b2 –> as b -> ∞ ? :wink:
 
ninfinity said:
Isn't that ∞/∞? That doesn't make sense.
∞/∞ isn't a number; it's an indeterminate form, as is 0/0 and several others. If you take a limit and get one of these indeterminate forms, it means you aren't done yet.
 

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