Problems with Real Analysis class

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by an individual nearing retirement who is taking a Real Analysis class. The participant expresses concerns about performance on exams compared to homework and quizzes, and seeks insight into potential reasons for this discrepancy, including mathematical ability, test-taking anxiety, or other factors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reflects on their history with Real Analysis classes, noting a pattern of dropping the course due to poor exam performance despite excelling in homework and quizzes.
  • Another participant suggests that the issue may be related to test-taking anxiety, emphasizing that learning a subject and performing well on tests are distinct skills.
  • A different participant proposes that the individual could analyze their incorrect test answers and share solutions to gain clarity on their understanding.
  • One participant questions the individual's performance in other math and non-math classes to assess if test anxiety is a broader issue.
  • Another participant shares their own experiences with test-taking at an older age, suggesting that concentration and stamina may decline with age, impacting performance on timed exams.
  • This participant encourages the original poster to focus on the joy of learning rather than being defined by grades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the reasons behind the original poster's difficulties, with some attributing it to test anxiety and others suggesting age-related challenges. No consensus is reached regarding the underlying cause of the issues discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the issue, noting that multiple factors may contribute to the original poster's experience, including personal history, age-related cognitive changes, and the nature of different assessment formats.

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Hi. I'm nearing retirement so I thought I would take some math classes. This fall I took a Real Analysis class at a good school and dropped it because I did so bad on the first exam. I did great on the homework and quizzes. I also took Real Analysis about 47 years ago at a very good school and dropped it for the same reason. I also took Real Analysis about 15 years ago at a good school that had take home exams. I got an A in that class. Do I have: A lot of mathematical interest, but no ability, or 2) Extreme mathematical test taking anxiety, or 3) Something else?
 
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cask1 said:
Hi. I'm nearing retirement so I thought I would take some math classes. This fall I took a Real Analysis class at a good school and dropped it because I did so bad on the first exam. I did great on the homework and quizzes. I also took Real Analysis about 47 years ago at a very good school and dropped it for the same reason. I also took Real Analysis about 15 years ago at a good school that had take home exams. I got an A in that class. Do I have: A lot of mathematical interest, but no ability, or 2) Extreme mathematical test taking anxiety, or 3) Something else?
This is hard to tell. Truth is often multi-layered. It depends on so many factors, most of which you might not and we definitely don't know.

Here is an article I wrote with tips on how to deal with exam situations. Perhaps some of them can help you.
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/10-math-tips-save-time-avoid-mistakes/

Learning a subject and being good at a test are two different qualities.
 
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Great, thanks!
 
If the problem is test taking anxiety, you should be able to take the problems you got wrong on the test, and write up solutions to them that you post here and we all agree they are correct. Might be worth a try to see how it goes.
 
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cask1 said:
Hi. I'm nearing retirement so I thought I would take some math classes. This fall I took a Real Analysis class at a good school and dropped it because I did so bad on the first exam. I did great on the homework and quizzes. I also took Real Analysis about 47 years ago at a very good school and dropped it for the same reason. I also took Real Analysis about 15 years ago at a good school that had take home exams. I got an A in that class. Do I have: A lot of mathematical interest, but no ability, or 2) Extreme mathematical test taking anxiety, or 3) Something else?
<<Emphasis added.>> How did you do in tests for other math classes (i.e., other than real analysis)? For non-math classes? That should also let you know whether you have general issues with test anxiety.
 
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I am also near or at retirement age and went to school around 47 years ago. I have taken a few 3-hour tests over the last 5 years, and another 3 hour test in Quantum Mechanics around 20 years ago. The fact is I found myself losing steam around the 2 hour mark. The fact is it is hard to concentrate and sit in a chair and focus as well as when we were younger. Taking a test is tough for 60 year olds. The fact that you are doing well in take-homes and even consider extending your mind in these directions wonderfull. You no longer need to worry about grades; so do not let these grades define you.

It is hard to see what the problem is, whether you have interest but less abiity or otherwise. I tend to believe it is more a question of maintaining fitness/ concentration level, as you are competing with 20 year olds.
 
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