Producing Iron Oxide: Easier & Faster Ways?

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The discussion revolves around methods for producing iron oxide, specifically focusing on faster and easier techniques for rust production. Participants explore various approaches, including electrolysis and chemical mixtures, while also touching on related topics such as thermite production.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using an iron screw in water with electrification to produce rust and asks for faster methods.
  • Another participant implies that the discussion may relate to thermite production.
  • A suggestion is made to use small pieces of scrap steel in salt water for rust production.
  • A participant shares a detailed method involving steel wool, bleach, and vinegar, noting the importance of ventilation due to toxic gas release.
  • There is a question about the possibility of using hematite as an alternative for thermite production, indicating a potential interest in different iron oxide forms.
  • Another participant mentions the availability of rust chips in dumpsters as a practical source of iron oxide.

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Participants express various methods and ideas for producing iron oxide, but there is no consensus on the best approach. Multiple competing views and techniques remain present in the discussion.

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Some methods discussed involve specific chemical reactions and safety considerations, but details on optimal ratios and conditions are not fully resolved. The effectiveness of different approaches remains uncertain.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking for practical methods of producing iron oxide, particularly in experimental or DIY contexts.

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I am trying to produce iron oxide by placing a iron screw in a glass of water and electrifying it. Is there an easier way to produce rust in larger quantities faster?
 
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Trying to make thermite are we?
 
Yes. Put many small pieces of scrap steel in salt water.
 
nick48 said:
I am trying to produce iron oxide by placing a iron screw in a glass of water and electrifying it. Is there an easier way to produce rust in larger quantities faster?

1. A High current output http://abp.com/High_Power_AC-DC_Converter.shtml" (Heavy Duty Cycle).
Note: Must be AC to DC and not DC to AC.

2. A fully Charged 12/24 volt http://www.dcbattery.com/rolls.html" will work very well.
24 volt High Current output seems to of worked for me when I used to
do Oxide Experiments with Electrolysis, I found there to be a lot of
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Note: Solution catalysis - The most commonly used solution http://www.chemguide.co.uk/physical/catalysis/introduction.html"
 
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Trying to make thermite are we?

That was exactly my thought.
 
I recall that with a little care you can make large quantities of relatively pure rust by mixing steel wool, bleach and vinegar together. Once the rust has formed dilute it with lots of water in a bucket. Leave it to settle, then siphon as much water as possible out. The remaining sludge you can spread out on that oven paper stuff and bake in the oven at a fairly low temperature. Afterwards just screw up the paper and the iron oxide should flake right off. Be careful though; bleach and vinegar gives off a nast amount of chlorine (i think). Whatever gas it is, I'm pretty sure it's poisonous, so do it in a well ventilated space blah blah blah. I am not sure what the best bleach-vinegar ratio was, but maybe it was around 3-1?
This was a while ago so there may be some mistakes; please don't hesitate to correct me.
 
Oh, and another thing, isn't it possible to make thermite using something else like hemitite? Isn't that just another isotype of iron oxide?
 
Try searching for some of mrjeffery321 (or something like that) He seems to be quite knowledgeable about these things
 
Or better yet : find an old alley. There are dumpsters with lots of rust chips that can be taken from the ground.
 

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