Product of complex conjugate functions with infinite sums

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem related to quantum physics, specifically the manipulation of complex functions involving infinite sums and Legendre polynomials. Participants are examining the derivation of a product of a complex function and its conjugate, and how this relates to summation indices in the context of real analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a function involving Legendre polynomials and seeks clarification on the derivation of the product of the function and its complex conjugate.
  • Another participant asserts that the second equation follows directly from the first, emphasizing that the sums behave like those with real numbers and that complex conjugation applies only to the amplitude.
  • A later reply questions the choice of different indices for the sums in the second equation, seeking further clarification.
  • An example is provided to illustrate how products of sums lead to cross-terms, explaining the necessity of using different indices to account for all combinations in the product.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification received, indicating improved understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mechanics of summation and the role of complex conjugation, but there is some uncertainty regarding the choice of indices in the summation process. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the initial participant's confusion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for clarity in handling infinite sums and complex functions, particularly in relation to index notation and the implications of complex conjugation. There may be assumptions about familiarity with mathematical operations that are not explicitly stated.

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Hello there. I'm here to request help with mathematics in respect to a problem of quantum physics. Consider the following function $$ f(\theta) = \sum_{l=0}^{\infty}(2l+1)a_l P_l(cos\theta) , $$ where ##f(\theta)## is a complex function ##P_l(cos\theta)## is the l-th Legendre polynomial and ##a_l## is a the complex term (known as partial wave amplitude). Then, the author calculates the product of ##f(\theta)## with its complex conjugate, and shows the result: $$ f(\theta)f^{*}(\theta) = |f(\theta)|^2 = \sum_{l}\sum_{l'}(2l+1)(2l'+1)(a_l)^{*}(a_{l'})P_l(cos\theta)P_{l'}(cos\theta). $$ My problem here is to understand how he obtained the second equation. I'm not familiar with operations with sums and real analysis, and I'm stuck with it. Any help will be very appreciated.
 
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Which part is unclear? The second equation directly follows from the first. The sums work like with real numbers. The complex conjugation is only relevant for the complex amplitude, where you also find it in the second equation.
 
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mfb said:
Which part is unclear? The second equation directly follows from the first. The sums work like with real numbers. The complex conjugation is only relevant for the complex amplitude, where you also find it in the second equation.
Good pointed; more precisely, I do not understand why he chooses a different index for each sum.
 
Let's make an example, with a sum over just three terms: ##(x_1 + x_2 + x_3) \cdot (y_1 + y_2 + y_3)##. This will lead to 9 terms: ##x_i y_j## for i=1,2,3, and j=1,2,3 separately. As formula, ##(\sum_{i=1}^{3}x_i) (\sum_{i=1}^{3} y_i) = (x_1 + x_2 + x_3) \cdot (y_1 + y_2 + y_3) = (x_1 y_1 + x_1 y_2 + x_1 y_3 + x_2 y_1 + x_2 y_2 + x_2 y_3 + x_3 y_1 + x_3 y_2 + x_3 y_3) = \sum_{i=1}^{3} \sum_{j=1}^{3} x_i y_j##. You need two different indices to have to cross-terms (like ##x_1 y_3##) included.
 
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mfb said:
Let's make an example, with a sum over just three terms: ##(x_1 + x_2 + x_3) \cdot (y_1 + y_2 + y_3)##. This will lead to 9 terms: ##x_i y_j## for i=1,2,3, and j=1,2,3 separately. As formula, ##(\sum_{i=1}^{3}x_i) (\sum_{i=1}^{3} y_i) = (x_1 + x_2 + x_3) \cdot (y_1 + y_2 + y_3) = (x_1 y_1 + x_1 y_2 + x_1 y_3 + x_2 y_1 + x_2 y_2 + x_2 y_3 + x_3 y_1 + x_3 y_2 + x_3 y_3) = \sum_{i=1}^{3} \sum_{j=1}^{3} x_i y_j##. You need two different indices to have to cross-terms (like ##x_1 y_3##) included.
Oh, it's very clear now! Thank you so much :)
 
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