Projectile moting and checking an answer with another equation doesn't work.

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of water shot from a high-pressure hose aimed at a burning building. The original poster seeks to determine the angle of elevation, the speed and acceleration at the highest point, and the height at which the water strikes the building, while also checking the consistency of their calculations with different equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the angle of elevation and various parameters of the water's trajectory using kinematic equations. They express confusion regarding discrepancies in height calculations when using different equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants question the clarity of the original poster's calculations and the assumptions made, particularly regarding the timing and the point of impact of the water on the building. There is acknowledgment of the need for more detailed solutions to identify potential errors.

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Participants note the importance of including units in calculations and clarify assumptions about the trajectory, such as whether the water hits the building at the maximum height. The original poster has indicated they assumed the water strikes at the peak of its trajectory.

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Homework Statement



Firemen are shooting a stream of water at a burning building using a high-pressure hose that shoots out the water with a speed of 25.0 as it leaves the end of the hose. Once it leaves the hose, the water moves in projectile motion. The firemen adjust the angle of elevation of the hose until the water takes 3.00s to reach a building 45.0 away. You can ignore air resistance; assume that the end of the hose is at ground level.

a. Find the angle of elevation
b. Find the speed and acceleration of the water at the highest point in its trajectory
c.how high above the graound does the water strike the building and how fast is it moving just before it hits the building?

Homework Equations



x-xo=vox*t
vx=vox
y=yo +voy*t -1/2 *g *t^(2)
vy=voy-g*t
y-yo=(voy+vy)/2 *t
vy^(2)=voy^(2) -2g(y-yo)

The Attempt at a Solution



a= 53.1 degrees
x=xo+vox*t
45.0m=25.0m/s*cos(theta)*3.00s
Theta=53.1 degrees

b=15 m/s and g=9.8m/s^(2)
Vox=25.0m/s*cos(53.1)= 15m/s
Aceleration is the same vertically.

c=15.9m
y=yo+voy*t -1/2*g*t^(2)
y= 20m.s*3.00s-1/2*g*9.00s^(2)
y=15.8m

d=17.7m/s
vy^(2)=voy^(2)-2g(y-yo)
vy^(2)=(20m.s)^(2)-19.6m/s^(2)*15.9m
vy=9.4m/s

therefore Vf=17.7m/s by v=sqrt(vx^(2)+(vy)^(2))
vx=15.0m/sMy question is is that when I try to check my answer with other equations they do not come out the same. Why is that?
For example: I want to get my heigth at the highest point

vy^(2)=voy^(2)-2g(y-yo)
0=(20m/s))^(2)-19.6*y i get y=20m

y-yo=(voy+vy)/2 * t
y-0=(20m/s+0)/2*3.00s here i get 30m

How come these equations won't work to give me the actual height of 15.9m?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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1. You did not show your solution but just final results. How can someone guess what is wrong?
2. The values without units are useless. It takes 3s or 3 hours to reach the building? The answer will be different for the two cases.
3. Are you assuming that the water hits the building at the maximum point of the trajectory? The problem does not say so.
 
nasu said:
1. You did not show your solution but just final results. How can someone guess what is wrong?
2. The values without units are useless. It takes 3s or 3 hours to reach the building? The answer will be different for the two cases.
3. Are you assuming that the water hits the building at the maximum point of the trajectory? The problem does not say so.

There I fixed it. Yes I did assume that the water hits the building at the max point.
 
No need to try it anymore. I've got it now. Thank you nasu.
 
You are welcome.
 

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