Projectile Motion at the Top of a Hill: Angle and Height Calculation

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a projectile launched from the top of a hill towards a boat moving at a constant velocity. The original poster seeks to determine the angle of projection and the height of the hill, given specific parameters such as the initial velocity of the projectile and the distance to the boat.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss calculating the angle of projection using vector components and trigonometric functions. There are repeated inquiries about determining the height of the hill, with some suggesting the use of displacement equations and the parabolic trajectory of the projectile.

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Participants are actively exploring different methods to compute the height of the hill and have shared various approaches, including the use of vector triangles and equations of motion. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but several lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the need for additional information or assumptions, such as the equations of displacement and the relationship between the projectile's trajectory and the boat's movement. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to apply known principles of projectile motion while grappling with the specifics of the problem setup.

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***Help With PROJECTILE MOTION***

im giving a problem where i have to find the angle a projectile situated at the top of a will hit an boat wit constant velocity 20 ft/s 5 sec after starting at Vo = 96.6 ft/s and also how high the hill is above the water. The distance from the base of the hill to the boat is given to be 301 ft.

i found the distance the boat travels after 5 seconds to be 100 ft. now I am trying to calculate the Vx and Vy components of the projectile to get theta, any suggestions?? thanx
 

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Draw a vector triangle and use cos and sine functions. youll see it.
 
i found the angle but how do i find the height of the hill?
 
the_d said:
i found the angle but how do i find the height of the hill?

Again, which are the equations of displacement? Use the height of the hill as an initial, let's say, y-position.
 
Can someone help me figure out the height of the hill for this problem, i am stuck...thanks
 
i found the distance the boat travels after 5 seconds to be 100 ft. now I am trying to calculate the Vx and Vy components of the projectile to get theta, any suggestions??
The projectile follows a parabolic trajectory, but it is starting at a higher elevation than it will end.

One simply finds the point at which the boat and projectile paths intersect at 5 seconds.

The boat travels 100 ft in 5 seconds, the project must travel (310 ft + 100 ft = 401 ft) in those same 5 seconds. Knowing the distance traveled and the time, what value can be calculated?
 
i figured that part out already but now i am having a hard time computing the height of the hill, I tried making a triangle out of the picture but i only have one side 301 and one angle 90 degrees, am i missing somrthing?
 
Well, if one has the equation of the parabolic trajectory, then one can determine the time from start to the peak of the trajectory, and from peak of trajectory to impact point. One can then subract the distance traveled from beginning to peak from the peak to impact and that gives the starting elevation.

So one has calculated the angle at the beginning?

Bear in mind, assuming no wind resistance, the horizontal velocity is constant.
 
Seems it would be a great idea to post a detailed tutorial on projectile motion, since it's such a frequent question.
 
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What a smashing idea! Just marvellous
 
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We'll see what we can do.

Meanwhile, Greg Bernhardt posted a tutorial on "Motion in 2 Dimensions"
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=95427
Page 11-15 (including worked example) covers projectile motion.

4. Problem-solving strategy for 2–D motion:

a) Select a coordinate system (typically Cartesian).

b) Resolve the initial velocity vector into x and y components.

c) Treat the horizontal motion and the vertical motion independently!

d) Horizontal motion has constant velocity. (Assuming wind resistance is neglected.

e) Vertical motion has constant acceleration (usually gravity).

Afterall, the parabolic trajectory can be described by pair of parametric equations x = x(t) and y = y(t), which describe the location or coordinates as functions of time.
http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/0/parametric.6/index.html
http://colalg.math.csusb.edu/~devel/precalcdemo/param/src/param.html
http://www.math.hmc.edu/calculus/tutorials/parametric_eq/
 

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