Projectile motion given theta and x

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of an Olympic long jumper who takes off at an angle of 23 degrees and travels a horizontal distance of 8.7 meters. The goal is to determine the takeoff speed of the jumper based on the given parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various equations related to projectile motion, including horizontal and vertical components of motion. There are attempts to isolate time (t) and initial velocity (Vo) using different equations. Some participants suggest substituting values from one equation into another to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of equations, but no consensus has been reached on a single method or solution.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the equations and the manipulation of variables, particularly in isolating time and initial velocity. The original poster expresses difficulty in arriving at the correct answer, which differs from the book's solution.

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Homework Statement



An Olympic long jumper leaves the ground at an angle of 23o and travels through the air for a horizontal distance of 8.7m before landing. What is the takeoff speed of the jumper?

Homework Equations



8.7m = cos(23o)Vot

y = sin(23o)t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t2

0m2/s2 = sin2(23o)Vo2 + 2(-9.8m/s2)y

The Attempt at a Solution



Fifteen minutes and many permutations later, I get t = .835, .782 with Vo = 11.32m/s, 12.09m/s

The answer in the book is 11m/s.


Can you explain the steps you would take to solve this? It literally took me 15 minutes of mathematical manipulation to isolate t. The final step to find t for me was:

.697 = t2(3.6934 - 4.9t2)


Thanks guys!
 
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y = sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t
u missed a Vo here.
well get t from the first equation, and substitute it in t in the second one.
from the first equation u get
t=8.7 / cos(23)Vo
 
An easier way is to solve for t first in y = sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t^2:

0=sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t^2
Divide out t...
 
[tex]x=V_o \cos(\theta_o)t[/tex]

giving

[tex]t = x\frac{x}{V_o \cos(\theta_o)}[/tex]

and from

[tex]y = V_o \sin(\theta_o)t - 0.5gt^2[/tex]

we have that

[tex]y = x\tan(\theta_o) - \frac{gx^2}{2V_o\cos^2(\theta_o)}[/tex]

the parabolic equation describing the trajectory of the projectile
 
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