Projectile motion motorcycle jump over cliff

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The problem involves a motorcyclist performing a jump off a cliff inclined at 53.0 degrees, aiming to clear a 40.0m wide river while accounting for a vertical drop of 15.0m to the far bank. The scenario is set in the context of projectile motion, with specific parameters provided for the jump.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate equations of projectile motion to apply, expressing confusion over the role of time and initial velocity in their calculations. Some mention the need to establish simultaneous equations for horizontal and vertical motion.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the equations relevant to the problem, with some participants suggesting clarifications on the variables used. Guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the equations, but uncertainty remains about how to proceed with the substitutions and calculations.

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Participants note the challenge of having multiple unknowns and the implications of ignoring air resistance in their calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clearer definitions of variables and components in the equations being used.

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a motorcyclist jumps off a cliff inclined at 53.0 degrees over a river that is 40.0m wide. the far bank is 15.0m lower than the edge of the take off ramp. the river itself is 100m below the ramp. Ignore air resistance. What should his speed be at the top of the ramp to just make it to the edge of the far bank?

given:
theta = 53.0 deg.
d = 40.0 m
change(y) = 15.0 m

I'm just not sure what equation of projectile motion to use. Time is not really a factor in this... and I am confused because the variable t is in all the equations and where I don't know initial velocity, it leaves me with two unknown variables. Can someone just point me in the right direction, help me figure out which equations to use. Thank you so much.
 
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offbeatjumi said:
a motorcyclist jumps off a cliff inclined at 53.0 degrees over a river that is 40.0m wide. the far bank is 15.0m lower than the edge of the take off ramp. the river itself is 100m below the ramp. Ignore air resistance. What should his speed be at the top of the ramp to just make it to the edge of the far bank?

given:
theta = 53.0 deg.
d = 40.0 m
change(y) = 15.0 m

I'm just not sure what equation of projectile motion to use. Time is not really a factor in this... and I am confused because the variable t is in all the equations and where I don't know initial velocity, it leaves me with two unknown variables. Can someone just point me in the right direction, help me figure out which equations to use. Thank you so much.

You end up with two simultaneous equations, so you can solve for both unknowns. One equation is for the horizontal motion, which has a constant velocity. The other equation is for the vertical motion as a function of time, and has a parabolic term in it due to the constant acceleration of gravity changing the vertical velocity as a function of time. Does that help?
 
so i use x(t) = v(x)t + x(0) and the other equation is y = y(0) + v(0y)t - 1/2gt^2 ? even when i substitute known variables into these i have no idea what to do with them
 
offbeatjumi said:
so i use x(t) = v(x)t + x(0) and the other equation is y = y(0) + v(0y)t - 1/2gt^2 ? even when i substitute known variables into these i have no idea what to do with them

You should clean up those starting equations a bit first. The velocity in the first equation should be v(t), for example, not v(x) (Quiz Question -- how come?). And you should be more explicit about the components to avoid what you are writing in the second equation "V(0Y)t" is confusing and potentially wrong. Try using Vx(t) and Vy(t) for the velocity names.

Now, you *do* have starting and ending coordinates, and and starting Vx(0) and Vy(0) values. Start writing those equations...
 

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