Projectile motion motorcycle question

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The problem involves a motorcycle launching off a ramp inclined at 30 degrees, with the goal of determining how many barrels the rider can clear after leaving the ramp at a speed of 60 m/s. The context is projectile motion, focusing on the calculations of horizontal distance and time of flight.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the components of velocity and the equations of motion relevant to projectile motion. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of initial and final velocities, as well as the need for a diagram to visualize the problem. Some participants suggest calculating the time of flight and horizontal distance to determine the number of barrels cleared.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the equations and the setup of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between vertical displacement, time, and horizontal distance, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the initial velocity and its components, as well as the vertical displacement of the rider. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made about the height and time of flight in relation to the ramp's incline.

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Homework Statement


A motorcycle daredevil wants to ride up a 50.0m ramp set at a 30.0 θ incline to the ground. It will launch him in the air and he wants to come down so he just misses the last of a number of 1.00 m diameter barrels. If the speed at the instant when he leaves the ramp is 60.0 m/s, how many barrels can be used?
the answer is 355

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi*cosθ
x=xo+vi*cos θ*t
Vf=Vi*sin θ -gt
y=y0+vi*sin θ*t-1/2gt^2
height=Vi^2*sin θ*cos θ/2g
Range=Vi^2*sin2 θ/g

The Attempt at a Solution


Vf=Vi*cos30
Vi=60 / cos30
Vi=69.3 m/s

R=Vi^2*sin2 θ/g
R=69.3^2*sin60/9.8
R=424

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kelvin56484984 said:
Vf=Vi*cosθ
That's a new one on me. What do you mean by vi and vf there?
 
I find it on my book
It should be
Vx=Vi+at for x component
(since a=0)

Vx=Vi*cosθ
 
You need to sketch a diagram first. First calculate the time after which the rider will land. Use that time to find the horizontal distance traveled i.e. d=Vprojectioncosθ. No of barrels will be simply the horizontal distance since the diameter of each barrel is 1m.
 
kelvin56484984 said:
Vx=Vi*cosθ
That makes more sense. Which of those velocities is given?
 
vx is equal to 60m/s?
I try to sketch this diagram
5817VS.jpg
 
kelvin56484984 said:
vx is equal to 60m/s?
I try to sketch this diagram
5817VS.jpg
Vx is not 60m/s. It is the total velocity of projection, inclined at 30 degrees with the horizontal. That's what you are supposed to show in your diagram.
Now, from your diagram, you can see the net vertical displacement of the rider. You know the acceleration due to gravity g. Set up an equation relating displacement with time and g and find the time taken by the rider to reach the ground. You can then use this time to find the horizontal distance covered before landing.
 
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But how to use projectile velocity find the Vi?
50*sin30=Vi*sin30*t -1/2gt^2
x=x0+Vi*cos30t
these equation?
 
Right! You have Vi already.
 
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Vi equal to 60?
 
  • #11
kelvin56484984 said:
Vi equal to 60?
Yes.
 
  • #12
But I substitute vi=60 to
50*sin30=Vi*sin30*t -1/2gt^2
I get t=0.995s or 5.127s
then put the t =5.127 into
x=x0+vi*cos30*t
then x=266
what's wrong with it?
 
  • #13
Well, the displacement should be negative i. e. -25m.
 
  • #14
kelvin56484984 said:
But how to use projectile velocity find the Vi?
50*sin30=Vi*sin30*t -1/2gt^2
No. He leaves the ramp at a speed of 60m/s. At that time, he is already at a height of 50 sin(30) m.
 

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