Projectile Motion of a Shot Problem

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The problem involves a projectile shot from a cliff with specific initial conditions, requiring the determination of its horizontal and vertical velocity components just before impact. The subject area is projectile motion within the context of kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find velocity components and question the correctness of their calculations. There is a focus on the horizontal and vertical components of velocity, with some participants exploring different formulas and interpretations of initial conditions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the validity of their results based on feedback from an online platform. Some guidance is offered regarding the use of specific equations and the interpretation of signs in the context of motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of definitive answers from the online platform and the implications of incorrect submissions affecting their credit. There is also mention of a potential error in the teacher's question setup, leading to further exploration of the problem's assumptions.

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Homework Statement



A projectile is shot from the edge of a cliff 115 above ground level with an initial speed of 65.0 at an angle of 35.0 with the horizontal, as shown in the figure .

At the instant just before the projectile hits point P, determine the horizontal and the vertical components of its velocity.
Enter your answers numerically separated by a comma.
GIANCOLI.ch03.p046.jpg


Homework Equations



basic kinematic equations [a= constant]

The Attempt at a Solution

My attempt was pretty basic, I thought it was correct, and even asked my brother whos a physics tutor for help and he got the same answer, though the MasteringPhysics site which my class is using says its wrong

the horizontal x direction I got the same speed as it is when shot from the start so it doesn't change

65m/s*cos(35o) = 53.2 m/s in the horizontal direction

for the vertical I used the equation

v = vo + at

where vo = 65m/s*sin(35o) = 37.3 m/s
a = 9.8 m/s2
t = 2.4 s

"t" I found in a different part of the question.

so "v" = 60.36 m/s

though the site says its wrong (masteringphysics)

Thanks.

Homework Equations

 
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Use the formula V = (U^2 + 2gh)^1/2
to find the final velocity
 
I don't think I've seen that formula before, where you get it? and U is velocity initial right?

also its still equals 60.38, which I already used as a former answer, does that mean my horizontal answer is wrong or the teacher who posted this question online is wrong?
 
hmm.. It looks like your teacher may have made a mistake then.
what was his answer?

and yes "U" is initial Velocity
 
there is no answer, its a site called mastering physics, he posts questions and we input an answer if its right we get credit if wrong we lose.
 
hanlon said:
there is no answer, its a site called mastering physics, he posts questions and we input an answer if its right we get credit if wrong we lose.

Can you show your calculation of t?
I am using the formula

-115 = 37.3(t) - 0.5*9.8(t)^2.

Solve the quadratic to find t.
 
115 = 0 + (3.73m/s)*t + 4.9t2

since velocity and acceleration are moving in the same direction at this point

then using the quadratic equation

-37.3 (+/-)sqr(37.32 - 4(4.9)(-115))/ 2*4.9

which ended up 2.355102041 and some other number I didn't record.
 
115 = 0 + (3.73m/s)*t + 4.9t^2

The displacement and the acceleration are in the same direction.

But the velocity is in the opposite direction to acceleration. So the equation should be

115 = 0 - (3.73m/s)*t + 4.9t2
 
ah, I got a email back from my teacher

since its going downwards the velocity component is negative. woops
 

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