Can the Defendant Throw the Money Bag Under 5 m/s?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of a money bag thrown from a height of 250 meters to a lower roof at 100 meters, across a 20-meter-wide mall. The defense argues that the maximum throwing speed required is 5 m/s, but calculations show that the bag can reach the second tower with a horizontal speed of only 3.61 m/s, which is below the defense's claim. The time of flight is calculated to be approximately 5.53 seconds, allowing ample time to cover the horizontal distance. The prosecuting attorney is advised that the defendant's claim is not supported by the physics involved. Overall, the calculations indicate that the defendant could easily throw the bag within the speed limit proposed by the defense.
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Homework Statement



From the roof of tower 1, a theif throws a money bag to an accomplice on the roof of tower 2, which is just west of tower 1. The two towers are separated by a mall. The defense attorney contends that in order to reach the roof of tower 2, the defendant would have had to throw the money bag with a maximum velocity of no more than 5m/s. Tower 1 is 250 m high, tower 2 is 100m high and the mall is 20m wide. How will you advise the prosecuting attorney?

Homework Equations



The big 5 equations
v= d/t
Cosine Law
Sine Law
Pythorean

The Attempt at a Solution



First attempt:
I used calculations assuming a 45 degree angle to the horizontal, then determined time using a big 5 equation. I then used this time to determine that the money traveled a total distance of 31.5 m.

Second attempt
d = 1/2 a t^2
-150 = .5(-9.81) t^2

5.53 sec is the time to fall from tower 1 to 2

d = vt
20 = v(5.53)
v = 3.61 sec is horizontal speed needed to get to tower 2 in 5.53 sec

Am I on the right track for either attempt?
 
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Pretty much. If you have 5.5 sec in the air before it reaches 150 m, then to go 20 m in that time is plenty to spare if they can throw at 5 m/s.

Try beaten by parents as a child for a defense instead.
 
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