Proof for a sum to be less than an integral of the sums expression.

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality between a sum of the form \(\sum_{x=2}^n \frac{1}{x^2}\) and the integral \(\int_1^n \frac{1}{x^2} dx\). The subject area includes concepts from calculus, specifically dealing with series and integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various methods to establish the inequality, including the use of Riemann sums and graphical interpretations. Questions arise regarding the limits of integration and the convergence of the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest alternative approaches to the problem, such as using lower Riemann sums and graphical methods. There is acknowledgment of errors in the initial setup, particularly concerning the limits of integration. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted divergence issue with the integral when the lower limit is set to 0, prompting a correction to use 1 instead. The participants also discuss the implications of using infinity in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



Prove that

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^n \frac{1}{x^2}<\int_0^n \frac{1}{x^2} dx[/itex]

Homework Equations



I'm not sure what equations are relevant for this, but I think for this I would need:

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^s} = \displaystyle\prod_{p}^{\infty} \frac{1}{1-p^{-s}}[/itex]

Or maybe

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} = \frac{\pi^2}{6}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



(1)

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} = \displaystyle\sum_{x}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} - 1[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} = \frac{\pi^2}{6} - 1[/itex]

(2)

[itex]\int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x^2} dx = \left[ -\frac{1}{x} \right]_0^\infty[/itex]

[itex]\left[ -\frac{1}{x} \right]_0^\infty = 0[/itex] ?

This integral does not converge between those limits?

(3)

[itex]\frac{\pi^2}{6} - 1 > 0[/itex]

So it seems that I can't prove for this? Am I right in using infinity for the limits to prove for n or do I need another method? Thanks
 
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There's a much easier approach. Show a lower Riemann sum for the integral that equals the series. Are you sure you want the lower limit on the integral to be 0? That's divergent, you know. I'm guessing it should be 1.
 
Dick said:
There's a much easier approach. Show a lower Riemann sum for the integral that equals the series. Are you sure you want the lower limit on the integral to be 0? That's divergent, you know. I'm guessing it should be 1.

Yes it was an error the lower limit is not 0 it is 1.

(1)

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} = \displaystyle\sum_{x}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} - 1[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x^2} = \frac{\pi^2}{6} - 1[/itex]

(2)

[itex]\int_1^\infty \frac{1}{x^2} dx = \left[ -\frac{1}{x} \right]_1^\infty[/itex]

[itex]\left[ -\frac{1}{x} \right]_1^\infty = -\frac{1}{\infty} + 1 = 1[/itex] ?


(3)

[itex]\frac{\pi^2}{6} - 1 < 1[/itex]

It is proved for infinity now I think but is this enough to say that it is so for

[itex]\displaystyle\sum_{x=2}^n \frac{1}{x^2} < \int_1^n \frac{1}{x^2} dx[/itex] ?
 
Yes, the integral is 1 and pi^2/6-1 is less than one. That's fine. But what I'm suggesting is a more low tech solution in which you don't need to know that the sum of the inverse squares is pi/6. Draw the graph of 1/x^2 and fit rectangles under the curve between every pair of integers. The sum of all the rectangles is clearly less than the integral, right?
 
Dick said:
Yes, the integral is 1 and pi^2/6-1 is less than one. That's fine. But what I'm suggesting is a more low tech solution in which you don't need to know that the sum of the inverse squares is pi/6. Draw the graph of 1/x^2 and fit rectangles under the curve between every pair of integers. The sum of all the rectangles is clearly less than the integral, right?

Oh... I've just realized that the rectangles you're talking about actually fit that sum in the question!
 

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