Proof of Finite Order of G in Quotient Group Q/Z

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the quotient group G = Q/Z, specifically focusing on whether every element of this group has finite order and the implications of the proof provided. The subject area includes group theory and properties of quotient groups.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the proof that elements of Q/Z have finite order, discussing the implications of multiplying elements by integers. Questions arise regarding the necessity of the integer s being prime and whether the proof holds for non-prime values.

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The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on specific parts of the proof and questioning the assumptions made about the integer s. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance has been offered regarding the finite order of elements in the group.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and properties of quotient groups, particularly in relation to the orders of elements and the nature of the integers involved in the proof. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the proof's assumptions.

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1. Show that every element of the quotient group G = Q/Z has finite
order. Does G have finite order?
he problem statement, all variables and given/known data




2. This is the proof

The cosets that make up Q/Z have the form Z + q,
where q belongs to Q. For example, there is a coset Z + 1/2, which is
the set of all numbers of the form {n + 1/2}, where n is an integer.
And there is a coset Z + 2/5, which consists of all numbers of the
form n + 2/5, where n is an integer. The cosets form a group if you
define the sum of A and B to be the set of all sums of an element in A
and an element in B, and this group is the quotient group. The
identity of Q/Z is just Z.

Now if you take a rational number r/s, where r and s are integers,
then

s (r/s) = r

which is an integer. Now anything in the coset Z + r/s is an integer
plus r/s, so if you multiply anything in that coset by s, you get an
integer. So if you multiply the coset by s (i.e. add it to itself s
times) you get a coset consisting of all integers, but that's just Z
itself. That is, the coset is of finite order s (or a divisor of s).



3.I just need it to be explained especially the part with s(r/s)
 
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What you said is perfectly correct. To put it in precise terms, if r/s+Z is an element of Q/Z (where we may assume that s is a positive integer), then s(r/s+Z)=r+Z=Z. So every element of Q/Z has finite order.
 
ok... I can see by example why this proof make sense with s in r/s being a prime number because s here is the order of the factor group, how about when s is not prime, does the proof still apply?
 
Why would s have to be a prime number? The order of what factor group? Q/Z is definitely not of order s, or any other finite number!
 
ok...
 

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