Proof of Homomorphism Property: Field Condition Implies 1-1 or Zero Mapping

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The discussion revolves around proving the homomorphism property that states if \( g: R \to T \) is a homomorphism and \( R \) is a field, then \( g \) is either injective (1-1) or the zero mapping. Participants explore various proof strategies, assumptions, and implications of the properties of fields and homomorphisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose a direct proof using cases based on the assumption \( g(a) = g(b) \) and the properties of subrings.
  • Others argue that the initial proof does not adequately utilize the fact that \( R \) is a field, questioning the validity of the conclusions drawn.
  • A participant suggests that the existence of non-zero elements in the kernel of \( g \) does not necessarily imply \( g \) is the zero mapping, providing a counterexample involving modular arithmetic.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for clarity in writing down assumptions and goals to make the proof comprehensible.
  • One participant presents a proof by contradiction, assuming \( g \) is neither injective nor the zero mapping, leading to the conclusion that \( g \) must be the zero mapping.
  • Further contributions suggest that if \( g \) is not the zero mapping, then the kernel of \( g \) must be trivial, implying \( g \) is injective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the initial proof's validity and the implications of the properties of fields. There is no consensus on the correctness of the proposed proofs, and multiple competing views remain on how to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the proof's clarity is hindered by missing assumptions and that the implications of the kernel of \( g \) are not fully explored. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the structure of fields in relation to homomorphisms.

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The question is:
Let g: R --> T be a homomorphism. If R is a Field, show that g is either 1-1 or the zero mapping


So I used a direct proof with cases.
Assume g(a) = g(b)
since the image (g) is a subring, it is closed under subtraction, then g(a) - g(b)= 0 [itex]\in[/itex] img (g)

now g(a)-g(b) = g(a-b) = 0

i) if a [itex]\neq[/itex] b, then g the zero mapping
ii) if a = b, then g is one to one.

what do you think?

thanks
 
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Bachelier said:
The question is:
Let g: R --> T be a homomorphism. If R is a Field, show that g is either 1-1 or the zero mapping


So I used a direct proof with cases.
Assume g(a) = g(b)
since the image (g) is a subring, it is closed under subtraction, then g(a) - g(b)= 0 [itex]\in[/itex] img (g)

now g(a)-g(b) = g(a-b) = 0

i) if a [itex]\neq[/itex] b, then g the zero mapping
ii) if a = b, then g is one to one.

what do you think?

thanks

I would be very suspicious with your proof. Why?? You didn't use anywhere that R is a field!

Where you went wrong is in (i) and (ii). I just don't know what you did there.
 
you can't say that because g(a) = g(b), but that a ≠ b, implies g is the 0-map.

for example: g:Z--->Z/(n) given by g(k) = k (mod n) has the property that

g(n) = g(2n), but g is NOT the 0-morphism.

all you have shown is that g is injective, or it's not. which isn't saying much, and requires no proof in the first place.

you should be thinking about the ideal ker(g).
 
From the mathematical properties of the assumptions you should prove the properties of the theorem or conclusion. That also implies that with little knowledge of the specific mathematical domain, your proof should have been readable to me. Which it isn't.

Write down the assumptions and write down the goal and make the road from assumptions to conclusion as clear as possible.
 
Bachelier said:
Assume g(a) = g(b)

So a and b are only two points of the field. If g(a) = g(b) then the only way this implies that g is zero is if the field has only 2 elements in it.

since the image (g) is a subring, it is closed under subtraction, then g(a) - g(b)= 0 [itex]\in[/itex] img (g)

if g(a) = g(b) then g(a) - g(b)= 0. It has nothing to do with subrings.

now g(a)-g(b) = g(a-b) = 0

i) if a [itex]\neq[/itex] b, then g the zero mapping
ii) if a = b, then g is one to one.

Just because g(a-b) = 0 doesn't mean that g can not be non zero on some other field element.
 
Thank you folks.

How about this.

Assume that g is not 1-1 and not the zero mapping.
Then ∃ a ∈ R s.t. g(a) = 0 and a ≠ 0

Since R is a field, a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex] = 1

So now: g (1) = g(a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = g(a). g(a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = 0 (since g is an homomorphism)

Then ∀ b ∈ R, g(b) = g(1.b) = g(1).g(b) = 0

Hence g is the zero mapping. [itex]\otimes[/itex]

Hence g is the zero mapping.

Does this prove it is 1-1 as well?
 
Bachelier said:
Thank you folks.

How about this.

Assume that [STRIKE]g is not 1-1 and not the zero mapping

Then[/STRIKE]
(you don't need this part) ∃ a ∈ R s.t. g(a) = 0 and a ≠ 0

Since R is a field, a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex] = 1

So now: g (1) = g(a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = g(a). g(a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = 0 (since g is an homomorphism)

Then ∀ b ∈ R, g(b) = g(1.b) = g(1).g(b) = 0

Hence g is the zero mapping. [itex]\otimes[/itex]

i believe it does, but you should add:

otherwise, there is no such a, so ker(g) = {0}, and g is 1-1.
 
Deveno said:
i believe it does, but you should add:

otherwise, there is no such a, so ker(g) = {0}, and g is 1-1.

Thank you.
 
Bachelier said:
Thank you folks.

How about this.

Assume that g is not 1-1 and not the zero mapping.
Then ∃ a ∈ R s.t. g(a) = 0 and a ≠ 0

Since R is a field, a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex] = 1

So now: g (1) = g(a.a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = g(a). g(a[itex]^{-1}[/itex]) = 0 (since g is an homomorphism)

Then ∀ b ∈ R, g(b) = g(1.b) = g(1).g(b) = 0

Hence g is the zero mapping. [itex]\otimes[/itex]

Hence g is the zero mapping.

Does this prove it is 1-1 as well?

more simply, 0 = g(b) = b.g(1) so g(1) = 0 since we can divide by b.
 

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