Proof of Line Integral Using ∇f & ∇g: R Region, C Curve

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship involving line integrals of continuously differentiable functions f(x,y) and g(x,y) over a closed curve C in a region R. The specific goal is to demonstrate that the integral of f times the gradient of g is equal to the negative of the integral of g times the gradient of f.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin evaluating the left-hand side of the equation symbolically. There is a suggestion to consider the gradient of the product of the two functions and the implications of the line integral of a gradient over a closed curve.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the use of the product rule for gradients and the fundamental theorem of gradients, noting that the line integral of a gradient over a closed curve is zero. However, there remains confusion about how to apply these concepts effectively to the problem at hand.

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Participants are grappling with the symbolic evaluation of the integrals and the application of relevant mathematical rules, indicating a need for clarification on these points. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the initial steps to take in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Let f(x,y) and g(x,y) be continuously differentiable real-valued functions in a region R. Show that ∫f ∇g · dr ]= − ∫g ∇f · dr for any closed curve C in R.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't really know where to start, so I tried to evaluate the LHS of the equation but how do I do this symbolically? and where do I lead on from ther?
 
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charmmy said:

Homework Statement


Let f(x,y) and g(x,y) be continuously differentiable real-valued functions in a region R. Show that ∫f ∇g · dr ]= − ∫g ∇f · dr for any closed curve C in R.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I don't really know where to start, so I tried to evaluate the LHS of the equation but how do I do this symbolically? and where do I lead on from ther?

Hint: What is [itex]\mathbf{\nabla}\left[f(x,y)g(x,y)\right][/itex]? What is the line integral of the gradient of a function over a closed curve?
 
so is LaTeX Code: \\mathbf{\\nabla}\\left[f(x,y)g(x,y)\\right] =
take h= f(x,y) g(x,y)
then ∇h=dh/dx+dh/dy...

What is the line integral of the gradient of a function over a closed curve? : is this just equal to zero?

i'm quite confused
 
charmmy said:
so is LaTeX Code: \\mathbf{\\nabla}\\left[f(x,y)g(x,y)\\right] =
take h= f(x,y) g(x,y)
then ∇h=dh/dx+dh/dy...

Well, yes, that's the basically definition of gradient. However, it isn't all that useful to you here...there is a product rule that should be in your textbook/notes that tells you how to take the gradient of a product of two scalar functions...Use that.

What is the line integral of the gradient of a function over a closed curve? : is this just equal to zero?

Yes, this is a direct consequence of the fundamental theorem of gradients.

[tex]\oint \mathbf{\nabla}(fg)\cdot d\textbf{r}=0[/tex]

You can also express the integrand in terms of [itex]f[/itex], [itex]g[/itex], [itex]\mathbf{\nabla}f[/itex] and [itex]\mathbf{\nabla}g[/itex] using the product rule I mentioned above. Doing so, then splitting up the integral and using the fact that the result is zero will allow you to show the desired result.
 

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