Proof Practice Ideas: Books, Exercises, & Theorems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around seeking recommendations for books and exercises to practice mathematical proofs, as well as sharing theorems for participants to prove. The scope includes introductory proof strategies and concepts from various fields of mathematics, particularly for those preparing for university-level studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ajay requests recommendations for books or exercises focused on practicing proofs and suggests posting theorems to prove.
  • Some participants suggest looking for elementary books that contain proofs and theorems, encouraging Ajay to try proving a theorem of interest.
  • One participant mentions specific exercises available in the Calculus and beyond section, including a reference to Fermat's Last Theorem.
  • Ajay expresses familiarity with calculus, basic number theory, geometry, and algebra, indicating readiness for university-level mathematics.
  • Another participant suggests starting with basic statements about parity as proof exercises, while also recommending an introductory proofs book for familiarization with proof strategies.
  • Ajay acknowledges familiarity with proof strategies like induction and proof by contradiction but seeks further book recommendations to solidify understanding.
  • A participant proposes a proof challenge related to the set of positive real numbers and discusses the implications of the statement.
  • There is a discussion about countable and uncountable sets, with participants sharing their understanding of examples such as natural numbers and real numbers.
  • One participant introduces a more complex proof challenge involving nondecreasing functions and their discontinuities, inviting others to engage with it.
  • Spivak's Calculus is recommended by a participant as a well-written resource that fosters a love for pure mathematics.
  • Another participant shares a problem related to prime numbers and perfect squares, suggesting it as a potential exercise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of viewpoints on the types of exercises and books that would be beneficial for practicing proofs. There is no consensus on a specific resource or approach, and multiple competing views on proof strategies and exercises remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about mathematical concepts such as countability and the nature of discontinuities, which may not be universally agreed upon. The complexity of proposed exercises varies, and participants express differing levels of comfort with the material.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students preparing for university mathematics, particularly those interested in improving their proof skills and understanding foundational concepts in mathematics.

UncertaintyAjay
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Could anyone recommend some books or exercises to practice proofs? Or even post some theorems to prove?
Thanks in advance,
Ajay
 
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I am not sure of what you are looking for, but most elementary books contain proofs, and contain theorems. Look for some theorem that interests you, try to prove it and if you're stuck, just post it here and we'll gladly help.
 
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Also, if you scroll through the Calculus and beyond section you might find some exercises to try to prove.

Or.. you might prove that there are no positive integers ##a,b,## and ##c## such that for ##n \geq 3##

$$a^n + b^n = c^n$$.
:-p
 
Haha.
 
UncertaintyAjay said:
Or even post some theorems to prove?
What field of mathematics and what level are you interested in?
 
I'll be headed to university this fall. I am familiar with calculus, really basic number theory, geometry, algebra etc.
 
UncertaintyAjay said:
I'll be headed to university this fall. I am familiar with calculus, really basic number theory, geometry, algebra etc.

You might start by trying to prove some statements about parity. Like an odd number times an odd number is always odd. Even number times anything is always even. Those are pretty straight forward. If you feel you already feel comfortable with those. Then really you should just find a good introductory proofs book, and begin familiarizing yourself with basic proof strategies.
 
Yeah, I've done those. I am also familiar with a few proof strategies like induction and proof by contradiction but concepts are a bit hazy. Any recommendations for books?
 
UncertaintyAjay said:
I'll be headed to university this fall. I am familiar with calculus, really basic number theory, geometry, algebra etc.
Ok. The following is perhaps more about notation and careful reading than about mathematics proper, but here it is:

Prove or disprove: ##\{x > 0 \,:\, x < r\,\forall\,r > 0\} \neq \emptyset##.

UncertaintyAjay said:
I am also familiar with a few proof strategies like induction
Does that mean that you know what a countable set is?
 
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Krylov said:
{x>0:x<r∀r>0}≠∅{x>0:x<r∀r>0}≠∅\{x > 0 \,:\, x < r\,\forall\,r > 0\} \neq \emptyset.
I assume this is for x and r both belonging to real numbers?Assume the above statement to be true. Then for any element of the set S {r:r>0} there must be another element smaller than it. I.e there is no smallest element of S.( Now i am a bit stuck, I know that there is no smallest element in the set of real numbers, so the statement is true,but I haven't the foggiest idea how to prove it. I'll think over and see if there is another approach to the proof as well)
 
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Krylov said:
Does that mean that you know what a countable set is?
I do. The set of natural numbers,prime numbers, odd numbers, even numbers etc. are countably infinite. Real numbers, irrational numbers etc. are not.

Edit: Sets like "Natural numbers less than 10" are countable. Just not countably infinite. Uncountable sets are ones where you cannot create a one to one function with the set of natural numbers.
 
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UncertaintyAjay said:
I do. The set of natural numbers,prime numbers, odd numbers, even numbers etc. are countably infinite. Real numbers, irrational numbers etc. are not.

What about rationals?
 
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Countable. Right?
 
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UncertaintyAjay said:
I assume this is for x and r both belonging to real numbers?
Yes, that was implicit in the ##>## sign, but you are very correct.
UncertaintyAjay said:
I'll think over
Ok :smile:
UncertaintyAjay said:
I do. The set of natural numbers,prime numbers, odd numbers, even numbers etc. are countably infinite. Real numbers, irrational numbers etc. are not.
Beautiful, then I already have some other calculus-flavored exercises in mind.
 
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Bring it on. I haven't been this excited in ages.
 
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UncertaintyAjay said:
Bring it on. I haven't been this excited in ages.
I was thinking about this one, but it may be a bit too difficult, since a number of steps are required. However, in principle it should be doable.
  1. Let ##f : [0,1] \to \mathbb{R}## be nondecreasing. Prove that ##f## has a countable number of discontinuities.
  2. Let ##g: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}## be nondecreasing. Prove or disprove: ##g## has a countable number of discontinuities.
Take your time for it. (Don't feel obliged either. If others have exercises that appeal more to you, go ahead and do those.)
 
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UncertaintyAjay said:
I'll be headed to university this fall. I am familiar with calculus, really basic number theory, geometry, algebra etc.

I highly recommend Spivak's Calculus. I found it to be extremely well-written, and fostered a love of pure math in me (an engineering student).
 
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Maybe this can help with proofs: fb/brilliant
Here you can do this problem:

Find the prime number which is one less than a perfect square number?

For more view this link
 

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