Proofs regarding inequalities and number line stuff

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving properties related to closed intervals on the number line, specifically the interval [a,b] where a < b. Participants are tasked with expressing points within these intervals in terms of a parameter t, exploring the significance of t, and determining midpoints and specific fractional points within the intervals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss expressing points in the interval [0,b] as x = tb and question the significance of t. There is an attempt to relate points in the interval [a,b] to a shifted version of the problem. Some participants express confusion about algebraic manipulations needed for part b and seek clarification on the implications of working with an open interval in part d.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress on parts of the problem, particularly part a, while others are exploring different approaches to part b. Guidance has been offered regarding shifting intervals and the implications of open intervals, though no consensus has been reached on the overall solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an ongoing discussion about the definitions and properties of closed versus open intervals.

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Homework Statement


"There is a very useful way of describing the points of the closed interval [a,b] (where we assume, as usual, that a < b)

a. Consider the interval [0,b]. Prove that if x is in [0,b] then x = tb for some t with 0 <= t <= 1. What is the significance of the number t? What is the mid-point of the interval [0,b]

b. Now prove that if x is in [a,b], then x = (1-t)a + tb for some t with 0 <= t <= 1. Hint: Can also be written as a + t(b-a). What is the midpoint of the interval [a,b]? What is the point 1/3 of the way from a to b?

c. Prove, conversely, that if 0 <= t <= 1, then (1-t)a + tb is in [a,b]

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The Attempt at a Solution



I think I'm really close and I'm just missing something extremely stupid. I solved part a like so
0 <= x <= b
0/b <= x/b <= b/b
0 <= x/b <= 1
Let x/b = t
0 <= t <= 1

I'm stuck on part b however. No matter how many times I did the algebra I just never could come up with the right equation. I assume to start out like this:
a <= x <= b
a/b <= x/b <= b/b
Let x/b = t
a/b <= t <= 1
a <= tb <= b
From here I'm somewhat stuck. I see that "tb" is part of the equation I"m looking for, I just need a (1-t)a from there.

I also think I have solved c:
0 <= t <= 1
0 * (b-a) <= t * (b-a) <= 1 (b-a)
0 <= t(b-a) <= b -a
a <= a + t(b-a) <= b

Thanks for all of your help in advance!
 
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For (b), given interval [a, b], consider instead the interval [0, b-a]. You have, in part (a) shown that any point, x, in that interval, can be written in the form x= t(b- a) for some t between 0 and 1. Now "shift" that to put x between a and b.
(You are looking at b/a. Look at b- a instead.)
 
Thanks HallsofIvy!

Now I am on part d.) which states: The points of the OPEN interval (a,b) are those of the form (1-t)a + tb for 0 < t < 1.

Is there anything that is different about approaching this problem because of an open interval?
 
No difference at all. Except, of course, since t= 0 gives a and t= 1 gives b, you have to drop those values.
 

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