Propane: Liquid to Gas - Volume Change & Diffuse Velocity

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The discussion focuses on the volume change of propane when transitioning from liquid to gas. It establishes that 1 ml of liquid propane at 120 psi and 70°F expands to approximately 311 ml of gas at atmospheric pressure (14.696 psi). The participant highlights the importance of using accurate density values and thermal corrections for precise calculations, referencing propane's molar mass of 44.1 g/mol and the gas's behavior at Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP). The conversation also touches on the diffuse velocity of gas and suggests using specific gravity charts for accurate density readings.

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  • Understanding of gas laws and expansion ratios
  • Familiarity with propane properties, including molar mass and density
  • Knowledge of Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP) conditions
  • Ability to interpret density charts and thermal corrections
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  • Explore the use of CRC tables for gas calculations
  • Investigate methods to calculate diffuse velocity of gases in confined spaces
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This discussion is beneficial for chemical engineers, safety professionals handling propane, and anyone involved in gas expansion calculations or thermodynamics.

Kirua
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H!,

I was wondering, if 1 ml of liquid propane (120 psi @ 70°F) is released into the atmosphere assume 14.696 psi (constant temperature), what will be the change in volume of what used to be 1 ml of liquid propane when changed to gas?

From what i heard, the ratio for most gases expanded from liquid is 1:800 units.
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I got it from some fun facts website years ago. given the difference in properties of different gasses i really doubt the 1:800 ratio, so please lend me a hand if you have the time :)

Thanks ahead of time!
Kirua

follow up question,
what is the diffuse velocity of the gas and how long will it take? Assume the 1ml propane is contained in a cylindrical canister with an circular opening of .75" dia.
 
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Well, here's how I'd solve it, with fair precision:

Propane (C3H8) is ~44.1 g/mol (you can look it up to the desired accuracy)

A mole of most gases at Standard Temperature/Pressure (1atm, 0 C) occupies ~22.4 L

Therefore, 1 g of propane gas @ STP occupies .508 L.

Dividing by the density of liquid propane would give the answer for 1 cc, instead of 1 g

You'd need to look up thermal corrections for 70F vs 32F (O C), but often these are given as density (specific gravity) charts in g/cc or kg/L, from which you could read expansion fairly directly without much calculation. The main advantage of my method is that it is easy to approximate the expansion for most gases from standard references like the CRC tables

This http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?LanguageID=11&CountryID=19&Formula=&GasID=53&UNNumber=&EquivGasID=53&VolLiquideBox=1&MasseLiquideBox=&btnLiquidToGas=Calculate&VolGasBox=&MasseGasBox=&RD20=29&RD9=8&RD6=64&RD4=2&RD3=22&RD8=27&RD2=20&RD18=41&RD7=18&RD13=71&RD16=35&RD12=31&RD19=34&RD24=62&RD25=77&RD26=78&RD28=81&RD29=82 gives an expansion ratio of 311, using actual values, not general principles.
 
Thanks! this is really really useful :D
 

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