Properties of electric lines of force

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The discussion revolves around the properties of electric lines of force, specifically addressing why they do not pass through conductors, as well as their behaviors such as lateral pressure and longitudinal contraction. Participants seek clarification on these concepts within the context of electrostatics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of lines of force not passing through conductors and seeks clarification on the concepts of lateral pressure and longitudinal contraction. Some participants provide definitions and context for lines of force, while others suggest visualizing the patterns of these lines to aid understanding.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the properties of lines of force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions and implications of these properties, but there is no explicit consensus on the understanding of lateral pressure and longitudinal contraction.

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Participants are working within the framework of electrostatics and are encouraged to consider the definitions and implications of lines of force as described in their textbooks. There is an acknowledgment of differing views on the conceptualization of these lines, particularly in relation to Faraday's ideas.

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my textbook mentions the following as properties of lines of forces among other things
They do not pass through a conductor.

They contract longitudinally.

They exert a lateral pressure on each other.
I want clarification on these points
i) Why lines of force do not pass through the conductor?
What is meant by exerting lateral pressure among each other and contracting longitudinally?
Thanks in advance revered members

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I think lines of force represent path taken by the charge, then how can we say that they don't pass through the conductor
 
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Start with a definition of a line of force. It is a line (straight or curved) whose direction (or, if you prefer, the direction of whose tangent) at any point along it is the direction of the electric field strength vector, E, at that point.

This is not, in general, the same as the path a free charge would take. [A free charge would pick up speed and would 'go wide' on bends.]

Now, about inside a conductor... You're clearly studying the electrostatic case. What must be the electric field strength inside a conductor if its free electrons aren't drifting? Can you see how this solves your problem?

Now what about lateral pressure and longitudinal contraction? Well, draw the pattern of lines of force between a small positive charge and a small negative charge. [You do this by vector addition of the fields due to each charge separately, to establish the resultant field direction at a number of points - enough to see what the pattern of lines is going to be.]

Faraday imagined these lines of force as real things, elbowing each other apart, and also under tension, pulling the charges together. If your teacher favours this conception, go along with it. But don't forget that the definition I gave at the beginning is the bedrock.
 
i understood about lines of force not traveling inside the conductor. but i can't understand lateral pressure and longitudinal contraction,sir? could u elaborate? also thanks for the reply.
 
Did you manage to sketch the lines of force due to two separated equal and opposite charges? If not you could cheat by googling 'dipole field' and finding an image: makes sure it's an electric dipole rather than a magnetic dipole.

Can you now see from the image why Faraday thought of the lines as elbowing each other apart, and as under tension and pulling together the charges which they join? Physicists don't now regard lines of force as explaining in this way how charges attract each other. It was, though, a hugely important idea, because it suggested that to understand the forces exerted by charges on one another, one needed to consider things going on in the space between the charges.

You should carefully distinguish Faraday's speculative view of lines of force pushing sideways but under tension from the 'hard facts' about lines of force, which can be deduced from their definition and the laws of electromagnetism. For example, pattern of lines of force due to a dipole can be drawn by vectorially adding the fields (given by the inverse square law) for the individual charges, at a number of points. It is also clear from the definition that lines of force can't cross. The dipole field also illustrates the property of lines of force that the closer together they come the stronger the field.

The Faraday picture (lines pushing apart and under tension) is not among these 'hard facts'. In my view, not using it will not harm your understanding of electric fields.
 

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