Property of a ring homomorphism

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The discussion centers on proving that a ring homomorphism f: R -> Q, where R represents the reals and Q represents the rationals, must map every real number x to zero. The proof employs a contradiction approach, starting with the assumption that there exists a real number a such that f(a) ≠ 0. By demonstrating that this leads to the conclusion that f(1) must be the identity in Q, and subsequently showing that this assumption leads to a contradiction regarding the existence of rational numbers whose square is 2, it is established that f(x) = 0 for all x in R.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that f:R->Q (reals to rationals) is a ring homomorphism. Prove that f(x)=0 for every x in the reals.

Homework Equations



Homomorphisms map the zero element to the zero element.
f(0) = 0
Homomorphisms preserve additive inverses.
f(-a)=-f(a)

and finally,
f(a - b) = f(a) - f(b)


The Attempt at a Solution



My guess is go with contradiction and say, Suppose that f(a != 0) != 0 for some a in the reals.

But I don't see where to go from there. A hint or suggestion would be nice.
 
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I think I have an answer, let me know if you think my proof is ok.

Suppose there exists some a in the reals such that f(a)!=0. Then f(1*a)=f(1)*f(a)=f(a).
So f(1) must be the identity in Q. But that allows us to get numbers like 2 since f(1+1)=f(1)+f(1)=2. But then we have 2=f(2)=f(sqrt(2)*sqrt(2))=f(sqrt(2))*f(sqrt(2)),
and we know that there is no rational who's square is 2, hence our assumption that there exist some a in the reals such that f(a)!=0 is false.

Therefore, f(x)=0 for all x in the reals.

Let me know if there is anything wrong with the proof.

Thanks
 

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