Prove some laws of sequencing limits

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The discussion revolves around proving laws of sequencing limits, specifically focusing on the limit law for the product of sequences and the divergence of an alternating sequence. Participants express difficulty in understanding the concepts and definitions involved in the proofs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the standard definition of limits and the epsilon-delta approach. Some express confusion about the application of these concepts to the problems at hand. Others inquire about specific steps to prove the limit laws and the divergence of the sequence.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the first problem, with one participant suggesting a method to show that the limit of the product of sequences approaches zero. However, there remains a lack of consensus on how to proceed with the second problem, with participants still seeking clarity and further assistance.

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Participants mention that they have not fully grasped the concepts presented in class, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may be affecting their ability to tackle the homework effectively.

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Hi, I got some problems with the homework that I was assigned last week. I really got some problems to even start doing it...it's too difficult that I don't even know how to start it...the professor asked us to proof some laws...of sequencing limits when I don't even understand anything...I've discussed the problem with lots of classmates but non of them know how to do them either...please help me PROOF these problems><" thanxz in advance!
PROOF:
#1 Limit Law: lim (anbn) = (lim an ) (lim bn)
n->infinity n->infinity n->infinity


#2 an = (-1)^n (1,-1,1,-1,1,-1...) when n=0,1,2,3... Proof that it diverges
THANKS A LOT IF YOU COULD HELP ME!@@"
 
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I think this is an exercise in 'epsilontics'.
Meaning, you use the standard definition of a limes:

a = lim(n->[oo])an

if and oly if

for each epsilon > 0
there exists n0, so that
|an - a| < epsilon
for each n > n0.
 
yeah, I saw my professor writing something like thaht on the board, but I have no idea how and what that is@@"...could you help me doing the problem further?? please?
 
I've really never learned that...please help me
 
You just saw it? And didn't take notes?

OK, as for #1:
You want to show that |anbn - ab|
goes to zero, OK?
Here's a trick: Let's insert - abn + abn (which is zero):
|anbn - ab|
= |anbn - abn + abn- ab|
= |(an - a)bn + (bn - b)a|

since (an - a) and (bn - b) go to zero, the whole expression goes to zero. It's a matter of writing it down properly.
 
oh...ok, thanxz a lot arcnets...actually I did take notes...but the problem is that the professor just went through the whole thing whithout saying much about it...anyways...thank you!
uhmmm...do you have any clue on how to proof number two by chance? Anybody!?@@"
 
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the first problem looks something like this:
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does anyone know how to proof it@@? please?! I desperately want to know it...thanxz
 
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
 
1. arcnets already showed you how to do this, why do you keep asking about it?

2. A sequence converges to a number L if for every &epsilon; > 0 there exists an N such that n > N implies |xn-L|<&epsilon;. Given xk=(-1)k, for any L there exists infinitely many m such that |xm-L| >= 1, so the definition of convergence can't be satisfied satisfied. This prove is a little more slick if you can use the concept of a cauchy sequence which is not a difficult concept.
 
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thank you grady!
 

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