Finding a convergent subsequence of the given sequence

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The discussion revolves around finding a convergent subsequence of a given sequence defined as {(-1)n (1-(1/n)}∞n=1, within the context of an advanced calculus course. Participants are exploring the properties of sequences and subsequences, particularly focusing on convergence behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of a subsequence and the characteristics of the original sequence, including its oscillatory nature. There are attempts to identify a suitable subsequence that converges, with some participants questioning their understanding of the requirements for convergence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants clarifying concepts and exploring different subsequences. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of convergence and the correct formulation of subsequences, though no consensus on a final approach has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of an assignment from a quiz, and there is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and properties of sequences and subsequences without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


For some background, this is an advanced calculus 1 course. This was an assignment from a quiz back early in the semester. Any hints or a similar problem to guide me through this is greatly appreciated! Here is the problem:
Find a convergent subsequence of the sequence:
{(-1)n (1-(1/n)}n=1

Homework Equations


I don't think there are any equations needed. The class is all about proofs. Here's a definition:
A sequence {an} is said to converge to the number a provided that for every positive number ε there is an index N such that:
|an - a| < ε , for all indices of n ≥ N

The Attempt at a Solution


So this was my attempt. My "solution" was: {(1/n2)(-1)n}10n=2
How I got to this solution was honestly listing out a few terms of the original sequence and then finding another sequence that I thought would make sense.

Here's the note from my professor: "Sequences, and subsequences, have an infinite number of terms. Also, this sequence is not a subsequence."
 
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Maddiefayee said:
Here's the note from my professor:
So do you now understand what constitutes a subsequence and why your attempt was not one?
 
haruspex said:
So do you now understand what constitutes a subsequence and why your attempt was not one?
Yes! I understand that it is not a subsequence. I think I am just overthinking the problem here.
 
Maddiefayee said:
Yes! I understand that it is not a subsequence.
Good.

So, write out four or five terms of the full sequence. What is it about the full sequence that means it will not converge?
 
It won't converge because it oscillates between positive when n is even and negative when n is odd.
 
Maddiefayee said:
It won't converge because it oscillates between positive when n is even and negative when n is odd.
Well, that's not enough in itself to prevent convergence. (-1)n/n converges happily. But you are right that it is part of the problem here. So how can you select a subsequence to avoid it?
 
I could make it so that n=2k where k is in ℝ.
 
Maddiefayee said:
where k is in ℝ.
You mean ℕ, right?
What would that give? Can you show it converges? (Or maybe you are not required to prove it.)
 
Right. So then the new sequence would be:

{(-1)2n(1-(1/2n))}n=1

It would converge to 1.
 
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Maddiefayee said:
Right. So then the new sequence would be:

{(-1)2n(1-(1/2n))}n=1

It would converge to 1.
Right, but please use parentheses correctly: 1-1/(2n).
 

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