Prove that if f and g are integrable on [a, b], then so is fg

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The discussion revolves around the integrability of the product of two functions, f and g, defined on the interval [a, b]. Participants are exploring the implications of integrability in the context of Riemann integration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants attempt to demonstrate that if f is integrable, then f^2 is integrable, suggesting a relationship between the integrability of f and the product fg. Others question the validity of this assertion by providing counterexamples where f is not integrable despite f^2 being integrable.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the integrability of functions. Some have raised counterexamples that challenge the original assertion, indicating a lack of consensus on the validity of the claim.

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Participants are discussing the definitions of integrability and the implications of specific examples that may violate the assumptions of the problem. There is a focus on the conditions under which the original statement holds true.

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It suffices to show that f^2 is integrable, since

fg= [(f+g)^2-(f-g)^2]/4

The function x --> x^2 is uniformly continuous on the range of f,


im not sure how to turn this into a formal proof, I am lost


Riemann integration
 
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Which definition of integrability are you using?
 
a1010711 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



It suffices to show that f^2 is integrable, since

fg= [(f+g)^2-(f-g)^2]/4

The function x --> x^2 is uniformly continuous on the range of f,


im not sure how to turn this into a formal proof, I am lost


Riemann integration
You can't prove it, it's not true. For example, if f(x)= 1 if x is rational, -1 if x is irrational, the f2(x)= 1 so f2(x) is integrable on, say, [0, 1] but f is not. Also, if g(x)= 2, then g2(x)= 4 so is integrable on [0,1] but fg(x)= 2 if x is rational, -1 if x is irrational is not itegrable.
 
a1010711 said:

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It suffices to show that f^2 is integrable
What if you can find a function f that is integrable on [a,b] but not square integrable?

HallsofIvy said:
You can't prove it, it's not true.
That much is true.

For example, if f(x)= 1 if x is rational, -1 if x is irrational ...
That's fine, but the title of the thread is "Prove that if f and g are integrable on [a, b], then so is fg", so you are picking some f that violates the given conditions.
 

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