Prove that ##\lim\limits_{x \to \infty} f(x) = 0##

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The discussion revolves around proving that the limit of the function \( f(x) = \min_{m, n \in \mathbb{Z}} |x - \sqrt{m^2 + 2n^2}| \) approaches zero as \( x \) approaches infinity. Participants explore the properties of the function and its behavior in relation to integer points defined by the equation \( m^2 + 2n^2 \). The context involves concepts from real analysis and number theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the well-defined nature of the function for positive \( x \) and question whether the minimum or infimum should be considered. There is an exploration of sequences that approach infinity and their implications for the limit. Some participants express confusion about the existence of constants related to the growth of integer points within a bounded region.

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The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on specific mathematical concepts and the reasoning behind certain assertions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the boundedness of \( xf(x) \) as \( x \) approaches infinity, but there remains a lack of consensus on the details of the argument and the existence of constants.

Contextual Notes

Participants are examining the implications of the growth rate of integer points within an elliptical region and the associated constants. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a more detailed explanation of these concepts as they relate to the overall proof.

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Homework Statement
For ##x > 0##, let ##f(x)## be the minimum value of ##\left|x-\sqrt{m^2+2 \, n^2}\right|## for all integers ##m, n##. Then, prove that $$\lim_{x \to \infty} f(x)=0.$$
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Calculus, Number Theory.
Let ##f(x)= \min\limits_{m, n \in \mathbb Z} \left|x- \sqrt{m^2+2 \, n^2}\right|## be the minimum distance between a positive real ##x## and a number of the form ##\sqrt{m^2 + 2 n^2}## with ##m, n## integers.

Let us consider a radius ##R## and let us consider the set ##S_R## of integer points satisfying ##m^2 + 2 n^2 \le R^2##.
The ellipse enclosing them has area ##A(R) = \dfrac{\pi R^2}{\sqrt 2}##, and number geometry ensures its number of integer points ##N(R)## grows as ##\dfrac{\pi}{\sqrt 2} R^2## plus an error - proportional to ##R##; i.e. there exist positive constants ##c_1## and ##c_2## such that ##c_1 \, R^2 \le N(R) \le c_2 \, R^2## for ##R## large enough.

Each pair ##(m, n) \in S_R## determines the distance ##r = \sqrt{m^2+2 \, n^2}## between ##0## and ##R##. Two pairs can produce the same ##r##, but there are few coincidences with respect to ##N(R)##. Thus the number ##M(R)## of different distances satisfies ##M(R) \ge c_3 \, R^2## for a constant ##c_3 > 0##. By ordering these distances ##0 = r_0 < r_1 < \ldots < r_{M(R)-1} \le R##, the mean space between two consecutive distances is ##\dfrac{R}{M(R)} \le \dfrac{1}{c_3 \, R}##.

Now, if we choose a large ##x## and set ##R \approx x##, one of the ##r_k##s falls within at most ##\dfrac{1}{c_3 \, x}## from ##x##. Then, ##f(x) \le K/ x## with ##K = 1/c_3##. Since ##K/x## approaches zero when ##x \to \infty##, it immediately follows that $$\lim_{x \to \infty} f(x) = 0.$$
The values ##\sqrt{m^2+2 \, n^2}## become so dense on the positive half-line that the minimum deviation from any real number cancels as ##x## increases.

Is that correct?
 
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A point to consider is why the function is well defined, i.e, why does the minimum exist for ##x>0##. (If it doesn't then change minimum to infimum)

Assuming the function is well defined and the limit exists, then the limit must be zero, because we'll just pick a sequence ##x_n = \sqrt{1+2n^2}\to\infty##, for example. The minimum is constantly zero along this sequence, so zero is the only limit candidate.
(Side note: a valid proof would also be to show that the limit is zero along any sequence ##x_n\to\infty##)

It is a correct approach to show ##xf(x)## is bounded as ##x\to\infty##, but I just don't understand what precedes it :/ A more low level explanation for the existence of the constants would be helpful.
 
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nuuskur said:
It is a correct approach to show ##xf(x)## is bounded as ##x\to\infty##, but I just don't understand what precedes it :/ A more low level explanation for the existence of the constants would be helpful.
Mhm, could you outline what's unclear step by step? Hope I can provide a detailed clarification.
 
Meden Agan said:
its number of integer points ##N(R)## grows as ##\dfrac{\pi}{\sqrt 2} R^2## plus an error - proportional to ##R##; i.e. there exist positive constants ##c_1## and ##c_2## such that ##c_1 \, R^2 \le N(R) \le c_2 \, R^2## for ##R## large enough.
Specifically this part.

What I understand is we consider the set of integer points bounded by the ellipse
##
\frac{x^2}{R^2} + \frac{y^2}{\left(\frac{R}{\sqrt{2}} \right)^2} = 1
##

Are you saying that ##N(R)## is equivalent to ##cR^2 + \mbox{Error}(R)## as ##R\to\infty##? Why is that true and why does this imply existence of said constant ##c_1,c_2##?
 

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