Prove the definitions of Linear Transformations

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The discussion focuses on proving the equivalence of definitions of linear transformations, specifically showing that statement 2.1.1 is equivalent to statements 2.1.2 and 2.1.3. Participants clarify that a typo in 2.1.3 should be corrected to T(ax) = a*T(x). The proof begins by demonstrating that 2.1.1 implies both 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 using specific values for a and b. The final steps involve showing that if 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 hold, then 2.1.1 must also be true, successfully completing the proof. Overall, the conversation emphasizes understanding the relationships between these statements in linear algebra.
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Homework Statement


Show that 2.1.1 is equivalent to the totality of 2.1.2 and 2.1.3.

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aTx + bTy = aT(x) + bT(y) = T(ax) + T(by) = T(ax + by) ?
 
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It's really pretty easy. Just think clearly about what you have prove. But there is a really nasty typo in (2.1.3). It should read T(ax)=a*T(x). Is that what's confusing you?
 
I can 'get' that 2.1.1 follows from 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 and visa versa, but I'm not sure how to say it as a proof. I've never been good with proofs.
 
jinksys said:
I can 'get' that 2.1.1 follows from 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 and visa versa, but I'm not sure how to say it as a proof. I've never been good with proofs.

You aren't bothered by (2.1.3) saying T(ax)=a*x?? You should be. But if you aren't good at proofs, maybe you aren't. Change (2.1.3) to T(ax)=a*T(x). The first stage of the proof is show that (2.1.1) implies (2.1.2) and (2.1.3). That's pretty easy. I'll give you a hint for the first part. Put a=1 and b=1 into (2.1.1). What do you conclude?
 
Dick said:
You aren't bothered by (2.1.3) saying T(ax)=a*x?? You should be. But if you aren't good at proofs, maybe you aren't. Change (2.1.3) to T(ax)=a*T(x). The first stage of the proof is show that (2.1.1) implies (2.1.2) and (2.1.3). That's pretty easy. I'll give you a hint for the first part. Put a=1 and b=1 into (2.1.1). What do you conclude?

I meant to say that I understood that T(ax)=aT(x), but only because I have other linear algebra books to help me get through this class.

If a=b=1,

T(ax +by) = T(1x + 1y) = T(1x) + T(1y) = 1T(x) + 1T(y) = T(x) + T(y)

Edit:

Now do I have to do a=a, b=0 to get:

T(ax + by) = T(ax) =aT(x) ?
 
jinksys said:
I meant to say that I understood that T(ax)=aT(x), but only because I have other linear algebra books to help me get through this class.

If a=b=1,

T(ax +by) = T(1x + 1y) = T(1x) + T(1y) = 1T(x) + 1T(y) = T(x) + T(y)

Ok, that's good. So that shows (2.1.1) implies (2.1.2). Can you show it also implies (2.1.3)? The final step of the proof is showing (2.1.2) AND (2.1.3) imply (2.1.1).
 
I'm not sure if you saw my edit or not, so I'll just give it its own post.

To show 2.1.3, do I let a=a and b=0?

T(ax + by) where a=a, b=0:

T(ax + 0y) = T(ax) = aT(x).

Conversely with a=0, b=b:

T(0x + by) = T(by) = bT(y)
 
jinksys said:
I'm not sure if you saw my edit or not, so I'll just give it its own post.

To show 2.1.3, do I let a=a and b=0?

T(ax + by) where a=a, b=0:

T(ax + 0y) = T(ax) = aT(x).

Conversely with a=0, b=b:

T(0x + by) = T(by) = bT(y)

Sure, that shows T(ax)=a*T(x). So (2.1.1) implies (2.1.3). Now you just have to show (2.1.2) AND (2.1.3) imply (2.1.1). Try it. You are doing fine so far.
 
I'm stumped, I can see how you would prove that 2.1.1 implies 2.1.2 and that 2.1.1 implies 2.1.3, but I'm not sure how to combine them.
 
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Umm. You want to show T(ax+by)=aT(x)+bT(y), right? (2.1.2) says T of the sum of two vectors is T(first vector)+T(second vector), yes? Are ax and by vectors you could apply (2.1.2) to?
 
  • #11
If you let s = ax and t = by,

then T(s + t) = T(s) + T(t) = T(ax) + T(by) = aTx + bTy,

So, T(ax + by) = aTx + bTy ?

Any closer?
 
  • #12
jinksys said:
If you let s = ax and t = by,

then T(s + t) = T(s) + T(t) = T(ax) + T(by) = aTx + bTy,

So, T(ax + by) = aTx + bTy ?

Any closer?

Way closer. In fact, you finished it. Just say at what point you used (2.1.3).
 
  • #13
So letting s=ax and t=by was the right thing to do?
Are there other ways to say 2.1.1 stems from 2.1.2 and 2.1.3?
 
  • #14
jinksys said:
So letting s=ax and t=by was the right thing to do?
Are there other ways to say 2.1.1 stems from 2.1.2 and 2.1.3?

You just did it. T(s+t)=T(s)+T(t)=T(ax)+T(by) by (2.1.2). Now (2.1.3) says T(ax)=aT(x) and T(by)=b*T(y). Doesn't that mean you are done??
 

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