Prove This Sequence Is Bounded Below by 0 Using Induction

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The problem involves proving that the sequence {xn} defined by xn = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/n - ln(n) is bounded below by 0 using induction. The original poster has established that the sequence is strictly decreasing but is struggling with the boundedness aspect.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use induction to show that xn > 0 for all natural numbers n, starting with the base case and assuming it holds for n=k. They express difficulty in showing that x(k+1) remains greater than 0.
  • Some participants question the validity of the inequalities provided in the problem statement, suggesting that they may not hold true.
  • Others clarify the notation used, confirming that "log" refers to the natural logarithm (ln).
  • One participant suggests a different approach involving inequalities related to the logarithm and harmonic series, aiming to establish a relationship that could help prove the boundedness.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided alternative approaches and insights, while others are still grappling with the implications of the inequalities and the induction process.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the use of logarithmic notation, which has been clarified. Additionally, the original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they can employ.

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Homework Statement



Forgive my lack of LaTeX, not learned how to use it yet. Anyway, the problem is:

Use the inequalities

1/(n+1) < ln(n+1) - ln(n) < 1/n

to show that the sequence {xn} from n=1 to infinity defined by xn = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/n - ln(n) is strictly decreasing and bounded below by 0.

I've proved that it's strictly decreasing, stuck on the bounded below by 0 part.

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The Attempt at a Solution



We've been given a hint to use induction to show that xn > 0 for all natural numbers n so I'm going with that.

x(1) = 1 - ln(1) = 1 - 0 = 1 > 0. So it's true for n=1.

Assume it's true for n=k so x(k) = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/k - ln(k) > 0. I've tried rearranging this to 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/k > ln(k) for use in the next step.

Now consider x(k+1) = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/k + 1/(k+1) - ln(k+1). I've to show this is greater than 0 if x(k) is greater than 0. The problem is that whenever I use the inequalities above I end up with x(k+1) is greater than something less than 0, for example:

1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/k + 1/(k+1) - ln(k+1)

> ln(k) + 1/(k+1) - ln(k+1) [using x(k)>0]

> 1(k+1) - 1/k [Using the inequality on the right above].

This is less than 0 so proves nothing, and most of my answers are coming out in this because I'm using similar methods. I thought I had to use the fact that x(k)>0 to show x(k+1)>0 so I've been trying it with no luck. Any advice at all?
 
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This 1/(n+1) < log(n+1) - log(n) < 1/n inequality cannot possibly be correct .

Because from this you can deduce that
log(n+1) > log(n) + 1/(n+1)I tried log(100) - log (99) =0.004364

1/100 = .01

Already the inequality fails.
 
My apologies, when we use log in our course it means the natural log. Sorry, I've been using it for so long it just became second nature. log in the above problem is the natural log, ln.
 
I've managed to work out that x(k+1) > ln(k) - ln(k+1) + 1/k > 0 from the inequality on the right. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting

x(k+1) = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/k + 1/(k+1) > ln(k) - ln(k+1) + 1/k?

I'm having the same trouble as before.
 
You will need to show

log(n)<1+1/2+1/3+...+1/n

Let's use the inequality log(n+1)<log(n)+1/n.

We obtain

log(n)<log(n-1)+1/(n-1)<log(n-2)+1/(n-2)+1/(n-1)<...

I think you'll get there this way...
 

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