Provincial Exam: Circular Motion

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a frictionless roller coaster cart navigating a loop, requiring determination of the release height to ensure it remains on the track. The subject area encompasses concepts of circular motion and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for a minimum velocity to complete the loop and explore the relationship between height and velocity through energy conservation principles. There is consideration of centripetal acceleration and Newton's second law, with questions about calculating the normal force at the top of the loop.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the forces at play and the conditions for maintaining contact with the track. Some guidance has been offered regarding the normal force and its implications when the cart loses contact, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of having multiple unknowns in their equations, particularly regarding the normal force, and express uncertainty about additional equations that may be relevant to the problem.

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Homework Statement



A frictionless 3.0 kg roller coaster cart rolls down an incline, and then "loops the loop."

At what height, h, should the cart be released so that it does not fall off the circular track.

The loop has a radius of 6.0m and a height of 12.0 m.

Homework Equations



[tex]a_c = \frac{v^2}{r}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



This is an old practice exam, so if this has anything to do with escape velocities, it has been taken out of our curriculum.

I don't know quite where to start.

I know that you would require a certain velocity, conceptually, to be able to make it around the loop.

And [tex]v \propto h[/tex] because of the law of energy conservation. but i don't know what minimum velocity i would need?

I could kinda see a relation of using a centripetal acceleration to find out the velocity required and therefore the height, and find out the centripetal accelleration using Newtons Second, i just don't know how i can work it out.
 
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Senjai said:
I know that you would require a certain velocity, conceptually, to be able to make it around the loop.
Figure out the minimum speed at the top of the loop by examining the forces acting. Apply Newton's 2nd law.
 
Hi Doc Al, haven't seen you for a while.

At the top of the loop, their are two forces, both the normal force and the gravitational force are in the same direction.

But i don't know the normal force? I would assume that their is one because something has to keep it in its circular path. But i have no way to calculate it.

Once i have the normal force.. i would assume

[tex]F_c = F_N + F_g[/tex]

[tex]m\frac{v^2}{r} = F_N + mg[/tex]

Again though, i am unsure how to find the normal force, two unknowns and i only have one equation. Is their another equation I am neglecting?
 
What will the normal force be when the cart just barely loses contact with the track?
 
zero, so then gravity will F centrepetal? and calculate from there?
 
Exactly.
 

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