Proving an exponential function obeys the wave equation

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The discussion revolves around proving that the function y(x,t)=De^{-(Bx-Ct)^{2}} satisfies the wave equation. Participants are examining the necessary derivatives and the implications of the constants involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to differentiate the function with respect to both x and t, raising questions about the correctness of their derivatives. There is also discussion about the interpretation of the constants C and D, particularly regarding their roles in the wave equation.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the differentiation process, suggesting that there may be errors in the second derivatives calculated. Others are exploring the implications of the constants and how they relate to the wave speed, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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There are indications that participants are working under constraints typical of homework assignments, such as the need to prove the relationship without providing direct solutions. Some participants express uncertainty about their approaches and the definitions of variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Prove that y(x,t)=De^{-(Bx-Ct)^{2}} obeys the wave equation


Homework Equations


The wave equation:
\frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dx^{2}}=\frac{1}{v^{2}}\frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dt^{2}}



The Attempt at a Solution


1: y(x,t)=De^{-u^{2}}; \frac{du}{dx}=B; \frac{du}{dt}=-C
2: \frac{dy(x,t)}{dx}=-2uBDe^{-u^{2}};<br /> <br /> \frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dx^{2}}=4u^{2}B^{2}De^{-u^{2}}
3: \frac{dy(x,t)}{dt}=2uCDe^{-u^{2}};<br /> <br /> \frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dt^{2}}=4u^{2}C^{2}De^{-u^{2}}
Then I'm stuck, I think I might have done something wrong but I can't see what.
I think v=C (from (x-vt)) and that would cancel the C^{2} when I substitute into the wave equation, but then I would be left with a B^{2}
 
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The C in the exponent is not the speed of the wave. It has dimensions of s^(-1).
The speed of the wave will be a function of C and D. Which you can find from the equation.
 
also, the equation
\frac{dy(x,t)}{dx}=-2uBDe^{-u^{2}}
is correct, but the next equation
\frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dx^{2}}=4u^{2}B^{2}De^{-u^{2}}
is not correct. It looks like you've done the derivative of the exponential, but what about the ##u## (in the previous equation), doesn't it depend on x also?
 
Sorry it has taken so long. I will come back to this question I'm just in the middle of moving right now :S
Thanks for replies :)
 
no worries :) hope the move goes well
 
LiamG_G said:

Homework Statement


Prove that y(x,t)=De^{-(Bx-Ct)^{2}} obeys the wave equation


Homework Equations


The wave equation:
\frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dx^{2}}=\frac{1}{v^{2}}\frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dt^{2}}



The Attempt at a Solution


1: y(x,t)=De^{-u^{2}}; \frac{du}{dx}=B; \frac{du}{dt}=-C
2: \frac{dy(x,t)}{dx}=-2uBDe^{-u^{2}};<br /> <br /> \frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dx^{2}}=4u^{2}B^{2}De^{-u^{2}}
You did not differentiate the first "u". It should be
\frac{\partial y(x,t)}{\partial x}= -2B^2De^{-u^2}- u^2B^2De^{-u^2}

3: \frac{dy(x,t)}{dt}=2uCDe^{-u^{2}};<br /> <br /> \frac{d^{2}y(x,t)}{dt^{2}}=4u^{2}C^{2}De^{-u^{2}}

Then I'm stuck, I think I might have done something wrong but I can't see what.
I think v=C (from (x-vt)) and that would cancel the C^{2} when I substitute into the wave equation, but then I would be left with a B^{2}
 
I know that you;re supposed to differentiate like crazy to get to the expected solution, but you can surprise your professor if you make the following change of variables in your PDE: x-vt = u; x+vt = v. Then you can fully solve the original PDE and make certain simplifying assumptions to find the function you're given in the statement.
 

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