Proving an Inequality: x+y>=2sqrt(xy)

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \( x + y \geq 2\sqrt{xy} \) for real numbers \( x \) and \( y \) that are both greater than zero. Participants are exploring the assumptions and approaches necessary for the proof, particularly focusing on the implications of assuming one variable is greater than the other.

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  • The original poster attempts to justify assuming \( y > x \) for their proof and questions whether this assumption is valid. Other participants suggest that assuming \( x > y \) could also be valid by symmetry, and they discuss the implications of these assumptions on the proof structure.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's concerns, providing insights on how to handle the symmetry of the expression. Some guidance has been offered regarding the phrasing of assumptions, and references to established inequalities have been made to support the discussion.

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There is a mention of the Arithmetic-Geometric Inequality (AGI) as a relevant concept, and participants are considering how their approaches align with established proofs. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their proof's validity compared to standard approaches.

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Homework Statement
If x and y are both real numbers and both greater than 0 prove that x+y>=2sqrt(xy)
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See the attached image for my attempt. My main concern is can I assume that y > x prove it for that case and then show it is equal if y = x.

My whole proof is centered around y > x so if i cannot make that assumption then I have to start over. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Adding "Asssume that x >y all the above said stands by exchanging x and y. So we know the given relation stands." would be fine.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Adding "Asssume that x >y all the above said stands by exchanging x and y. So we know the given relation stands." would be fine.
thanks.
 
Because the expression is symmetrical in ## x ## and ## y ## we would usually phrase the second line of your proof as "if ## x \ne y ## assume without loss of generality ## x > y ##". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_loss_of_generality.

You don't then need to add anything else.
 
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toslowtogofast2a said:
Homework Statement: If x and y are both real numbers and both greater than 0 prove that x+y>=2sqrt(xy)
Relevant Equations: See attached image

See the attached image for my attempt. My main concern is can I assume that y > x prove it for that case and then show it is equal if y = x.

My whole proof is centered around y > x so if i cannot make that assumption then I have to start over. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks in advance for the help. View attachment 353406
You may want to look into the AGI : Arithmetic-Geometric Inequality:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM–GM_inequality
 
pbuk said:
Because the expression is symmetrical in ## x ## and ## y ## we would usually phrase the second line of your proof as "if ## x \ne y ## assume without loss of generality ## x > y ##". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_loss_of_generality.

You don't then need to add anything else.
thanks for the link. that makes sense.
 
WWGD said:
You may want to look into the AGI : Arithmetic-Geometric Inequality:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM–GM_inequality
Thanks for the reply the proof in that link is the exact proof that was in my book. Since mine was different I started to question if I went wrong somewhere.
 
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