Proving Bernoulli's Inequality

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving Bernoulli's Inequality, specifically the statement that for \( h > -1 \), \( (1+h)^n \geq 1+hn \). Participants are exploring the implications of the inequality, particularly when \( h \) is negative.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of the inequality for various values of \( h \), including cases when \( h \) is negative. There are attempts to apply the Binomial Theorem and induction as potential methods for proof.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the proof structure, with some participants suggesting induction as a viable approach. Questions about the validity of certain steps and assumptions are being raised, indicating a productive dialogue without clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the condition \( h > -1 \) and its implications for the proof. There is also a recognition of the need for further justification when \( h \) is negative, which remains a point of contention.

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Homework Statement


Prove Bernoulli's Inequality: if ##h>-1##
(1+h)^n \geq 1+hn

Homework Equations


Binomial Theorem
(a+b)^n=\sum_{k=0}^{n}\binom{n}{k}a^{n-k}b^{k}

The Attempt at a Solution


If ##h=0##
(1+0)^n=1
1=1

If ##h>0##
This
(1+h)^n \geq 1+hn
Implies
(1+h)^n=\sum_{k}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k}
\sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k} \geq 0

So the proof is done.
 
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And what if ##h## is negative?
 
micromass said:
And what if ##h## is negative?

Owh, I keep forgetting that the number after -1 is not 0.

##h>-1## is equivalent to ##h+1>0##

We know \sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k} \geq 0

Under the closure of multiplication positive number will always give positive number so:
(h+1)\sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k} \geq 0

\sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k+1}+\sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k}\geq 0

Is the reasoning fine?
 
Seydlitz said:
Owh, I keep forgetting that the number after -1 is not 0.

##h>-1## is equivalent to ##h+1>0##

We know \sum_{k=2}^{n}\binom{n}{k}h^{k} \geq 0

I am not convinced of this if ##h## is negative. It requires a proof.
 
micromass said:
I am not convinced of this if ##h## is negative. It requires a proof.

Ok will proof by induction works in this case, if there's negative number in play?
 
Induction on ##n## will work. Not sure why you think ##h## being negative will make an induction proof invalid.
 
micromass said:
Induction on ##n## will work. Not sure why you think ##h## being negative will make an induction proof invalid.

Ahh, I didn't see that. I'm just a bit confused perhaps.

So the plan:
1.Proof the inequality is true using n=1
2.Assume n is true, to show n+1 is also true.

(1+h)^{n+1}=(1+h)(1+h)^n
(1+h)(1+h)^n=(1+h)(1+nh)
(1+h)(1+nh)=1+nh+h+nh^2=1+(n+1)h+nh^2
By inspection this should be true ##1+(n+1)h+nh^2 \gek 1+(n+1)h## for any h, and so the Bernoulli's inequality in consequence.
 
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Seydlitz said:
Ahh, I didn't see that. I'm just a bit confused perhaps.

So the plan:
1.Proof the inequality is true using n=1
2.Assume n is true, to show n+1 is also true.

(1+h)^{n+1}=(1+h)(1+h)^n
(1+h)(1+h)^n=(1+h)(1+nh)

This equality isn't true.

(1+h)(1+nh)=1+nh+h+nh^2=1+(n+1)h+nh^2
By inspection this should be true ##1+(n+1)h+nh^2 \geq 1+(n+1)h## for any h, and so the Bernoulli's inequality in consequence.
 
micromass said:
This equality isn't true.

Ok I think I know where that goes wrong.

(1+h)^{n+1}=(1+h)(1+h)^n
(1+h)(1+h)^n \geq (1+h)(1+nh) assuming the equality holds with ##n##
(1+h)(1+nh)=1+nh+h+nh^2=1+(n+1)h+nh^2
##1+(n+1)h+nh^2 \geq 1+(n+1)h##
then
(1+h)^{n+1} \geq 1+(n+1)h

This is true right?
##1+(n+1)h+nh^2 \geq 1+(n+1)h##
##nh^2 \geq 0##
 
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OK, that seems right.
 
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micromass said:
OK, that seems right.

Finally! Thank you for guiding me and clearing all of my messy mistakes. :D

Next question.
 

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