Proving Convergence of a Sequence Using Cauchy Criterion

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The discussion revolves around proving the convergence of the sequence defined by the sum of squares of terms involving the expression (21/k - 1). The subject area includes sequences and series, specifically focusing on convergence criteria such as the Cauchy criterion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods to demonstrate convergence, including the use of the Cauchy criterion and bounding techniques. Questions arise regarding the choice of N in relation to a specific epsilon value, and the validity of certain steps in the reasoning process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the assumptions made in their reasoning. Some guidance is provided regarding bounding terms and the application of the Cauchy criterion, though no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of their choices for N in relation to epsilon, and there is an acknowledgment of potential mistakes in earlier reasoning. The discussion reflects a mix of exploratory thought and critical evaluation of the methods proposed.

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Homework Statement


Show that the sequence {xn}:
xn := (21/1 - 1)2 + (21/2 - 1)2 + ... + (21/n - 1)2 is convergent.

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The Attempt at a Solution


If n > m,
|xn - xm| = (21/n - 1)2 + (21/(n-1) - 1)2 + ... + (21/(m+1) - 1)2
< (21/n)2 + (21/(n-1))2 + ... + (21/(m+1))2
< (21/(m+1))2 + (21/(m+2))2 + ...
= 41/m
Let ɛ > 0. We choose N such that 41/N < ɛ for all n > m > N.
Then |xn - xm| < 41/N < ɛ for all n > m > N.
 
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andyfeynman said:
Let ɛ > 0. We choose N such that 41/N < ɛ for all n > m > N.
Which N would you choose for ɛ=1?
 
mfb said:
Which N would you choose for ɛ=1?
Just forgot it. I made a very stupid mistake.
But I came up with the idea of letting bk = 21/k - 1.
This means bk2 < 4[k(k-1)] for all k > 2.
Therefore,
xn = 1 + b22 + ... + bn2
< 1 + 4/[1(2-1)] + ... 4/[n(n-1)]
= 1 + 4(1 - 1/2) + ... + 4[1/(n-1) - 1/n]
= 5 - 4/n
< 5
Since xn is monotone increasing and bounded, it is convergent.
But is there any way to do it using the Cauchy criterion?
 
andyfeynman said:
This means bk2 < 4[k(k-1)] for all k > 2.
That step is certainly not trivial.

I would use something like 21/k < 1 + c/k for some c.

Cauchy criterion: Probably, but I don't see how it would help.
 

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