Proving Corollary to Hahn-Banach Theorem: The Uniqueness of the Zero Point

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The discussion revolves around proving a corollary to the Hahn-Banach theorem concerning the uniqueness of the zero point in a normed vector space. The original poster seeks clarification on a statement from their notes, which asserts that if a vector in the space has all linear functionals vanishing at it, then that vector must be the zero vector.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of the statement by considering the nature of linear functionals and their behavior at specific points in the vector space. They express confusion about defining a suitable linear subspace and the functional that would help in the proof. Other participants suggest assuming the vector is non-zero and finding a functional that does not vanish at that point, leading to a contradiction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the proof. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of linear functionals and their implications for the uniqueness of the zero point. The original poster acknowledges their confusion and seeks further clarification, indicating a collaborative effort to deepen understanding.

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Participants note the challenge of balancing this proof with other academic responsibilities, such as exam preparation, which may impact the depth of exploration into the problem.

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Homework Statement


To clarify- this isn't a homework problem; its something that's stated as a corollary in my notes (as in the proof is supposed to be obvious) and I haven't yet managed to prove it- I'm probably just missing something! Would appreciate a hint or a link to where I might find the proof.

Let X be a normed vector space, t \in X such that for all g \in X', g(t) = 0. Then t = 0.

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Hahn-Banach Theorem (stated on my course as:)
Let M be a subspace of a normed vector space X. Let f \in M' . Then there exists g \in X' such that the norm of f (wrt M') is equal to the norm of g (wrt X'), and g is equal to f on M.


The Attempt at a Solution


Just a bit confused- this is equivalent to, the only point all linear functionals can vanish at is zero. Presumably I want to define some linear subspace to then use but the only one that jumps out at me is span(t) which then doesn't seem to give me anything. Any hints?
 
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You're going in the right direction. Assume that ##t\neq 0##. Then set ##M= span(t)##. Now define a suitable nonzero functional on ##M## and extend it by Hahn-Banach.
 
Possibly in the right direction, but unfortunately not at speed :P

I want to find a linear functional f defined on M s.t. f vanishes at t (so that its Hahn-Banach extension will satisfy the given property).. but if f vanishes at t then it vanishes on the whole of M, which is not particularly useful. I'm probably being incredibly slow but would appreciate a further hint, sorry! Also I have a lot of exams to revise for and don't really want to spend loads of time trying to prove this one little bit... Thank you in advance for any help!
 
You want to assume that ##t\neq 0## and you want to find a linear functional that does not vanish at ##t##. This would be a contradiction with the property that ##t## has (namely, that all the linear functionals vanish there.

So, can you find a linear functional ##f:M\rightarrow \mathbb{R}## with ##M=span(t)## such that ##f(t)\neq 0##?
 
Hmmn I think I was getting confused with the logic of what I was trying to do then. I can take f(at) = a |t| (where |t| is its norm). Then if every functional vanishes at t then the extension of f, g satisfies g(t) = 0 = |t| and by positive definiteness t is zero.
 

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