Proving/Disproving Sequence Claims: a Convergent Sequence Example

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to convergent sequences in the context of a recent assignment. The original poster seeks to understand the implications of certain conditions on the limit of a convergent sequence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the validity of claims regarding the limit of a convergent sequence based on specific conditions of the sequence. Some participants question the assumptions made about boundedness and limits, while others suggest exploring counterexamples.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the validity of the claims. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to take, emphasizing the importance of intuition and proof. However, there is no explicit consensus on the claims being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of convergence and boundedness, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of the conditions provided in the problem. The original poster specifically notes a belief that a counterexample exists for one of the claims.

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This is a question on a recent assignment that I can't figure out. I think if I understood the first part, I could get the rest.

Let {a_n} be a convergent sequence with limit L. Prove or provide counter examples for each of the following situations. Suppose that there exists a number N such that:

a) a_n >/= 0 for all n>N; is it true that L >/= 0?

b) a_n > 0 for all n>N; is it true that L>0?

c) a_n > 0 for all n>N; is it true that L </= 0?

I know there should be a counterexample for a) but I just can't wrap my brain around it. Thanks a lot.
 
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Do you have an actual question you're asking or do you just want someone to give you the answers?

Step 1) Use your intuition to guess whether the statements are true or false
Step 2) Try to prove your guesses
Step 3) If you can't prove one of your guesses, try proving the opposite
Step 4) If step 3 fails, go back to step 2.
 
If a sequence is bounded above or below, then that sequence has a limit and the limit is equal to that bound. Similarly, If a sequence has a limit then the sequence has a bound and the bound is equal to the limit.

I think this is relevant...

Josh
 
kreil, almost none of that is true. The sequence (1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,...) is bounded above and below but has no limit. And saying "the limit is equal to that bound" doesn't even make sense because a sequence generally has infinitely many bounds, there is just a unique least upper bound or greatest lower bound, if they exist.
 

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