Proving Nilpotency and Nonnegativity of Eigenvalues of Symmetric Matrices

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of eigenvalues related to nilpotent and symmetric matrices. The original poster seeks to establish that every eigenvalue of a matrix A is zero if and only if A is nilpotent, and to show that every eigenvalue of a symmetric matrix A is nonnegative if and only if A can be expressed as the square of another symmetric matrix B.

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  • The original poster attempts to connect the determinant of A to its eigenvalues and questions the validity of their steps in deriving the characteristic polynomial. Some participants suggest considering the implications of nonzero eigenvalues and explore the consequences of assuming A has such eigenvalues. Others discuss diagonalization and the properties of symmetric matrices in relation to their eigenvalues.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about assumptions and exploring different lines of reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of eigenvalues and the diagonalization of matrices, but no consensus has been reached on the proofs themselves.

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There is a mention of the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, which the original poster is not familiar with. Additionally, participants are navigating the complexities of matrix properties and eigenvalue relationships without a complete understanding of the necessary theorems or definitions.

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Show that every eigenvalue of A is zero iff A is nilpotent (A^k = 0 for k>=1)
i m having trouble with going from right to left (left to right i got)

we know that det A = product of the eignevalues = 0
when we solve for the eigenvalues and put hte characteristic polynomial = 0
then
[tex]det (\lambda I - A) = det (-A) = 0[/tex]
but i have a feeling taht i am not allowed to do that last step because the characteristic polynomial need not be equal to zero.

(Also i do not know the Cayley Hamilton theorem.)

If A is symmetric show taht every eigenvalue of A is nonnegaitve iff A = B^2 for some symmetric matrix B

im not even quite sure where to start with this one! Please help

thank you for any help!
 
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For the first one, what if there were an eigenvalue that were nonzero? There would be an eigenvector v for that eigenvalue. And then what would A * A * A * A * A * ... * v equal?

For the second one, do you know that if an nxn matrix A is symmetric then A has n eigenvalues? Then simply factor A as PDP^-1, and you should be able to find B. (if you are having trouble with that then think, with A factored into PDP^-1, what is A^2?)
 
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then that A A ... v = 0
and since the eigenvector is not zero (not sure) then A^ n = 0
 
No if there were an eigenvector v for a nonzero eigenvalue k then A * A * A * A * ... * v = k * k * k * k * ... * v
 
0rthodontist said:
No if there were an eigenvector v for a nonzero eigenvalue k then A * A * A * A * ... * v = k * k * k * k * ... * v
but here the eignevalue is zero
so something like taht , the right hand side is zero
that leaves A A A A A ... v = 0

what does this lead to , though?
 
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What I was trying to show you was a proof by contradiction. What you do is, given that A^k = 0 for some k, assume that A has an eigenvalue that is NOT zero. THEN, you try to show that there is a contradiction, so you can conclude A can't have any nonzero eigenvalues.
 
ok for the second one
[tex]A = PDP^{-1}[/tex]
[tex]A^2 = PDDP^{-1}[/tex]
[tex]A^2 = P D^2 P^{-1}[/tex]
not sure what happens now though
i tried removing one of As but that just leads back to the first step
 
But what actually is D^2? Are you familiar with diagonalization? D is a diagonal matrix whose diagonal entries are the eigenvalues of A, and P is a matrix whose columns are the corresponding eigenvectors of A. You can calculate the entries of D^2 easily.

Don't bother looking for a direct way from A^2 to the formula you are looking for, I was only saying compute A^2 as an example that would give you insight on B.
 

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