Proving the Closedness of the Boundary of a Subset in Rn

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The discussion revolves around proving that the boundary of a subset in Rn is a closed set. Participants explore various approaches to the proof, including characterizations of closed sets and the implications of boundary points.

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  • One participant suggests that the boundary of S is closed if it contains all of its boundary points, leading to the condition that the boundary of the boundary is included in the boundary itself.
  • Another participant proposes showing that the complement of the boundary is open as a method to establish that the boundary is closed.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that the boundary is the complement of the interior, which is also open, but acknowledges that this point has already been made.
  • One participant discusses different characterizations of closed sets, including the complement of an open set and the requirement to contain all boundary points, and suggests considering an indirect proof involving neighborhoods of boundary points.

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Participants express various methods for proving the closedness of the boundary, but there is no consensus on a single approach or resolution to the proof. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best method to demonstrate the claim.

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Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in the proof, and assumptions regarding the definitions of boundary and interior are not explicitly stated.

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Hello,
I know how to start but I don't know how to end that proof. It's supposed to be easy:
Let S a subset of Rn.
PROVE THAT the boundary of S is a closed set.
(I'll use d for delta, so dS is my convention for "the boundary of S").

So here I go:
dS is closed iff it contains all of its boundary points,
so dS is closed iff d(dS) is included in dS.
Let x be any point such that x belongs to d(dS).
So for any Ball B(r, x), r>0, (ie centered at x),
| B intersection dS is not empty
| and B interesection (dS)complement is not empty.
(the second line is equivalent to) B interesection (interiorOfS union exteriorOfS) is not empty

Now what's next??
Thanks for your suggestions. If you do have a suggestion, please don't skip a step or don't bypass a detail because it seems obvious (trust me, nothing is obvious to the one who doesn't know yet!)
 
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Have you tried showing that the complement of dS is open?
 
the boundary is the complement of the interior which is easily shown to be open. qed. oops. my bad. that was just said.
 
There are several different ways of characterizing closed sets. One is "complement of an open set"- that's the one morphism and mathwonk are suggesting. Another is "a set that contains all its boundary points"- that's the one ayas is using.

ayas, have you considered an indirect proof? If bd(S) is not closed then there must be some member, x, of bd(bd(S)) that is NOT in bd(S). Since x is in bd(bd(S)) every neighborhood of x contains some member, y, of bd(S). Now there is a neighborhood of y that is a subset of the original neighborhood . . .
 

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