Proving the Containment of Sint in S: A Simple Task or a Mind-Bending Challenge?

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The discussion revolves around proving that the interior of a set, denoted as Sint, is a subset of the set S. Participants are exploring the definitions and properties related to set interiors and the relationships between points and their corresponding balls in the context of set containment.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definitions of Sint and S, with some questioning the implications of these definitions. There are discussions about the properties of balls centered at points in relation to the sets they belong to, and whether the definitions alone suffice for the proof.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties involved, with some participants offering insights into the relationships between the sets and the balls. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take or the simplicity of the proof, as some express confusion and others suggest it may be straightforward.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and properties of the sets involved, indicating a potential lack of clarity that may affect their reasoning. There are hints of frustration regarding the perceived simplicity of the problem, which may be influencing their thought processes.

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Prove that Sint\subseteq S

Ok I thought this was going to be easy, but apparently I'm having issues.

So I said:

for all ##x## let x\inSint

==> there exists a B(r, x) s.t with any point a in Sint |X-a| < r.

But now S is the B(r,x) s.t |x-a| = r...

This is where I'm stuck. I know I have to show that the properties of Sint also apply to S. Help
 
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you should have said,

If x is in the interior of S, there exists a ball B(x,r) contained in S. Thus, for any a in the entire ambient space, if |a-x|<r, then a is in B(x,r) and thus in S.

The ball is in S, but why do you think S is in the ball?

I think the key point is that x itself is in the ball! Thus x is in... where?! (... as desired.)
 
I have no idea what you are talking about. But I am pretty sure you don't know what S^int means. This IS be easy. Review the definition of S^int, ok?
 
Dick said:
I have no idea what you are talking about. But I am pretty sure you don't know what S^int means. This IS be easy. Review the definition of S^int, ok?

That's exactly it, I do know what Sint means: it's the B(r,x) \subseteqS. i.e: The ball of radius "r" about the point "x". contained in S, but then I didn't "prove" anything I just stated the definition.

Is there some characteristic about S that I should be using to join them? Or is it just that simple as the definition?
 
trap101 said:
That's exactly it, I do know what Sint means: it's the B(r,x) \subseteqS. i.e: The ball of radius "r" about the point "x". contained in S, but then I didn't "prove" anything I just stated the definition.

Is there some characteristic about S that I should be using to join them? Or is it just that simple as the definition?

It's super easy. x is in B(r,x). If B(r,x) is contained in S then x is an element of S.
 
Dick said:
It's super easy. x is in B(r,x). If B(r,x) is contained in S then x is an element of S.

maaaaaaannnn. Is a question like that just made to mess with my head because it is just TOO easy, so you start thinking in circles?
 
trap101 said:
maaaaaaannnn. Is a question like that just made to mess with my head because it is just TOO easy, so you start thinking in circles?

If you overthink something that is easy, then you can start thinking in circles. But some things are just easy.
 

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