Proving the Limit of |a|^n Goes to 0 for |a| < 1

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The problem involves demonstrating that the limit of |a|^n approaches 0 as n approaches infinity, given that |a| is less than 1. This falls under the subject area of limits and sequences in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the properties of the sequence |a|^n, including its boundedness and monotonicity. There are attempts to apply the squeeze theorem and logarithmic properties to analyze the limit. Some participants express confusion about the validity of their steps and the implications of their findings.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches to establish the limit. Some have provided hints and guidance on taking limits directly, while others are questioning the correctness of their reasoning and calculations. There is recognition that the limit must exist due to the properties of the sequence, but no consensus has been reached on the final conclusion.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the assumption |a| < 1 and how it affects the limit. There are also references to previous knowledge that may not apply directly to this problem, leading to confusion in the reasoning process.

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Homework Statement



given |a| < 1, show that the limit of |a|^n goes to 0 as n goes to infinity.

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let |a|<1 and n>0 (n is a natural number, a is a real number)

then

|a^n| < 1^n

then

|a|^n < 1

then

1/n * |a|^n <= |a|^n < 1 (and we know from earlier that 1/n * |a|^n goes to zero)

so 0 <=|a|^n < 1 meaning |a|^n is bounded below.

now note that

|a| > |a|^2 > |a|^3 > ... |a|^n > |a|^(n+1) > ... since a < 1

Since a^n is progressively smaller and bounded below by zero, we know that a^n does converge by the convergent monotone sequence thm and since there are infinite items in this sequence, its limit cannot be in the set of a^n.

therefore let L be the limit,

|a^n - L| < e, since L is smaller than a^n;

a^n - L < e.

**I tried using the squeeze theorem but could not find a sequence that I new to be greater than a^n and goes to zero.** And I don't know what I am missing in order to be able to claim that L is zero.
 
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Hint: ##|a|^{n+1} = |a| \cdot |a|^{n}##. What happens if you take limits of both sides of this equation?
 
i am still missing something, cause now i am getting the lim to be e which i know is incorrect.

(n+1) * lim ln |a|= Lim (|a| * |a|^n) = lim |a| * n lim ln |a|

(n+1) = n lim |a|

(1+1/n) = lim |a|

(1+1/n)^n = (lim |a|)^n

e = lim |a|^n
 
kingstrick said:
i am still missing something, cause now i am getting the lim to be 1 which i know is incorrect.

(n+1) * lim ln |a|= Lim (|a| * |a|^n) = lim |a| * n lim ln |a|
I'm not sure why you're taking logs, but in any case the above doesn't make any sense.

First, how did you slide the "lim" past the ##n+1## to get ##(n+1) \lim \ln |a|##? Aren't you taking the limit with respect to ##n##?

Second, it is not true that ##\ln (|a| \cdot |a|^n) = |a| \cdot n\ln|a|## as your second equality seems to suggest.
 
Try taking limits directly of the left and right hand sides. Don't take logs first:
$$|a|^{n+1} = |a| \cdot |a|^n$$
Take advantage of the fact that you already concluded that ##\lim |a|^n## must exist because the sequence is bounded and monotonic.
 
I am unsure. I remember from an earlier class that the limit of x^n is equal to n * lim ln x

so i tried extending it to calculate the limits like you suggested:

lim of a^(n+1) = (n+1) * lim ln a [1]

lim (a*a^n) = lim a * lim a^n = lim a * n * lim ln a. [2] Then i divided both sides ([1], [2]) by lim ln a
 
kingstrick said:
I am unsure. I remember from an earlier class that the limit of x^n is equal to n * lim ln x
It's not true. What is true is that ##\ln (x^n) = n \ln (x)## and therefore ##\lim \ln (x^n) = \lim n \ln (x)##, but that isn't going to help you here.

You have established that ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} |a|^n## must exist. Let's call this limit ##L##. Now what is ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} |a|^{n+1}##?
 
lim |a|^(n+1) = aL < L since a < 1
 
kingstrick said:
lim |a|^(n+1) = aL < L since a < 1
What else is ##\lim|a|^{n+1}## equal to? Think about sequences in general. If ##(x_n)## is some sequence and ##\lim x_n = L##, then what is ##\lim x_{n+1}##?
 
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It should have the same limit
 
  • #11
kingstrick said:
It should have the same limit
Yes, that's right. So if we put ##x_n = |a|^n##, then ##x_{n+1} = |a|^{n+1}##.

If ##\lim |a|^n = L##, then what is ##\lim |a|^{n+1}##?
 
  • #12
lim |a|^(n+1) = L
 
  • #13
but doesn't that show

lim |a|^(n+1) = lim |a| * lim |a|^n

L = lim |a| * L
1 = lim |a| ??
 
  • #14
kingstrick said:
but doesn't that show

lim |a|^(n+1) = lim |a| * lim |a|^n

L = lim |a| * L
Yes!

1 = lim |a| ??
Well, that would be valid if ##L## was nonzero. Notice that ##\lim |a| = |a|##, so what you have just shown is that if you can divide by ##L##, then ##|a| = 1##. But we are given that ##|a| < 1##.

We want to prove that ##L## is zero, so dividing by ##L## is not what you want to do. How can you solve ##L = \lim |a| \cdot L## for ##L##?
 
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since |a| < 1 then lim |a| = |a| < 1 and L = lim |a| * L then L - L*Lim |a| = 0
which implies L(1-Lim|a|)=0 therefore L = 0
 
  • #16
got it! thanks!
 

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