Proving the Non-Continuity of f(x) at x=0

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The discussion revolves around the continuity of the function f(x) defined as f(x)=x/(abs(x-1)-abs(x+1)) at the point x=0. The original poster questions whether f can be defined to be continuous at this point, given that f(0) results in an indeterminate form.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of defining f(0) and whether a specific value can be assigned to make the function continuous. There are discussions about the existence of limits as x approaches 0 and the necessity of proving right-handed and left-handed limits. Some participants suggest examining the behavior of the function within certain intervals to clarify the continuity issue.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on the continuity of f at x=0. Some suggest specific values for f(0) and discuss the implications of these choices. There is an ongoing exploration of the limits and the epsilon-delta definition, indicating a productive engagement with the problem.

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Participants note the challenge of proving continuity using the epsilon-delta definition and the need to consider the function's behavior in different intervals. The original poster's concern about the function being undefined at x=0 is a recurring theme in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Can f be defined to be continuous at x=0?

f(x)=x/(abs(x-1)-abs(x+1))

Prove why/why not.

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The function is not defined at x=0 because f(0)=[0/0]. Therefore it cannot be continuous at x=0 but it is indeed continuous in its domain. How do I prove it cannot be continuous at x=0?
 
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Can you see how to choose [itex]c[/itex] such that [tex] f(x) = \begin{cases} <br /> c & x = 0, \\<br /> \frac{x}{|1 - x| - |x + 1|} & x \neq 0<br /> \end{cases}[/tex] is continuous at zero? (Hint: look at [itex]0 < |x| < 1[/itex].)
 
Do you know the definition of continuous? If you do this is easy.

A function, f, is said to be "continuous at x= a" if and only if
1) f(a) exists
2) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)[/itex]
3) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a)[/itex]

(Since (3) obviously requires (1) and (2), often only three is stated.)

Now the problem does NOT ask whether or not f is continuous at x= 0 (It is obvious that it is not since f(0)- as you imply 0 is not even in the domain. The problem asks "Can f be defined to be continuous at x=0?" That is, can you assign a value to f(0) so that it is continuous?

That only affects (1) so you need to think about (2). If the limit, [tex]\lim_{x\to 0} f(x)[/tex], does NOT exist then no value of f at 0 will make it continuous. If it does then it is clear what f(0) must be.
 
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c= -½ But it's not the same function anymore?
 
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I think I need to prove right-handed and left-handed limits are the same so limit at point x=0 exists. It's going to be a nightmare.
 
lep11 said:
I think I need to prove right-handed and left-handed limits are the same so limit at point x=0 exists. It's going to be a nightmare.

It shouldn't be. Take x in the range (-1/2,0) or (0,1/2), then what sign are x-1 and x+1?
 
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It shouldn't be. Take x in the range (-1/2,0) or (0,1/2), then what sign are x-1 and x+1?
Well, I have to prove using the definition, not "calculating" the limits.
 
lep11 said:
Well, I have to prove using the definition, not "calculating" the limits.

You'll find that very easy once you actually try it.
 
Let 0< x <½ . Then | x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) -(-½)| = ½ | (2x+(|x-1|-|x+1|))/(|x-1|-|x+1|) | = ½ | (2x /(|x-1|-|x+1|) + 1 | = ½ | 2x /(|x-1|-x-1) +1| < | 2x /(|x-1|) +1|<...<...<epsilon whenever 0<x-0<½ ??
 
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lep11 said:
Let 0< x <½ . Then | x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) -(-½)| = ½ | (2x+(|x-1|-|x+1|))/(|x-1|-|x+1|) | = ½ | (2x /(|x-1|-|x+1|) + 1 | = ½ | 2x /(|x-1|-x-1) +1| < | 2x /(|x-1|) +1|<...<...<epsilon whenever 0<x-0<½ ??

If x is in (0,1/2) then x+1 is positive, so |x+1|=x+1. x-1 is negative, so |x-1|=(-(x-1))=1-x. Try writing your expression without the absolute values on each interval.
 
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Let 0< x <½ .Then x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) = x/(-x+1-x-1)=-½ ?
Let -½<x<0 Then x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) = x/(-x+1-x-1)=-½ ?
However, that is not the epsilon, delta -definition.
 
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lep11 said:
Let 0< x <½ .Then x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) = x/(-x+1-x-1)=-½ ?
Let -½<x<0 Then x/(|x-1|-|x+1|) = x/(-x+1-x-1)=-½ ?
However, that is not the epsilon, delta -definition.

So once you define f(0)=(-1/2) then your function is the constant function f(x)=(-1/2) on that interval. Apply the epsilon delta definition to that. It's pretty easy.
 

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