Proving Vector Subspace $U \notin R^3$

  • Context: MHB 
  • Thread starter Thread starter bbelson01
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Subspaces Vector
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on proving that the set \( U = \{(x,y,z) | x \text{ is an integer}\} \) is not a subspace of \( \mathbb{R}^3 \). The user initially attempts to demonstrate closure under vector addition and scalar multiplication but fails to recognize that for \( U \) to be a subspace, the scalar multiplication \( c(x,y,z) = (cx, cy, cz) \) must also yield an integer for \( cx \). Since \( c \) can be any real number, \( cx \) may not be an integer, thus proving \( U \) is not a subspace.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of vector spaces and subspaces in linear algebra
  • Knowledge of vector addition and scalar multiplication
  • Familiarity with the properties of integers and real numbers
  • Basic concepts of closure in mathematical sets
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the definition of a vector space and its axioms
  • Learn about closure properties in vector spaces
  • Explore examples of subspaces in \( \mathbb{R}^n \)
  • Investigate the implications of scalar multiplication on integer sets
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in linear algebra, mathematicians exploring vector spaces, and anyone interested in understanding the properties of subspaces in \( \mathbb{R}^3 \).

bbelson01
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
Hi All,

How do I prove that $U=\{(x,y,z)|x \mbox{ is an integer}\}$ is not a subspace of $R^3$?

I understand that I have to show $U$ is closed or not closed under vector addition and scalar multiplication but I'm unsure how I represent $x$ as an integer.

I would say:
let $V=\{v=(x,y,z) \in R^3\}$ a set of vectors in $R^3$.

$v_1 = (x_1, y_1, z_1)$ and $v_2=(x_2, y_2, z_2)$ then $v_1 + v_2=(x_1+x_2, y_1+y_2, z_1+z_2)$ a vector in $U$. $U$ is closed under vector addition.

Now let $c$ be an element of the set of real numbers. Then $cv=c(x,y,z) =(cx, cy, cz)$ which is an element of $U$. So $U$ is closed under scalar multiplication.

This is clearly not right as the question says to show it is NOT a subspace. Where am I going wrong?

Thanks
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
bbelson01 said:
Hi All,

How do I prove that U={(x,y,z)|x is an integer} is not a subspace of R^3?

I understand that I have to show U is closed or not closed under vector addition and scalar multiplication but I'm unsure how I represent x as an integer.

I would say:
let V={v=(x,y,z) \epsilon R^3} a set of vectors in R^3.

v1 = (x1, y1, z1) and v2=(x2, y2, z2) then v1 + v2=(x1+x2, y1+y2, z1+z2) a vector in U. U is closed under vector addition.

Now let c be an element of the set of real numbers. Then cv=c(x,y,z) =(cx, cy, cz) which is an element of U. So U is closed under scalar multiplication.

This is clearly not right as the question says to show it is NOT a subspace. Where am I going wrong?

Thanks
Think more carefully about the paragraph in red. For (cx,cy,cz) to be an element of U, its first coordinate cx must be an integer. Does that have to be the case?
 
Thank you for your response. That was pretty obvious wasn't it? Ooops.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
5K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K