PSA Dont scale a cliff while on a hike

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the risks and consequences associated with hiking and climbing, particularly in challenging terrains. Participants share personal experiences related to rescues and the potential costs involved, as well as opinions on safety and decision-making in outdoor activities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Personal experience sharing, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants speculate about the potential charges for rescue services, suggesting that individuals may be held financially responsible if they are deemed to have acted recklessly.
  • One participant recounts a personal experience of being rescued after an injury while hiking, noting the high cost of the rescue and the role of insurance in covering it.
  • Another participant shares a climbing incident involving an unexpected rock fall that resulted in an injury, leading to a cautious approach to descent.
  • A humorous suggestion is made about using a bicycle instead of hiking, implying that it may be a safer alternative for those who are less adventurous.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the implications of rescue costs and personal responsibility, with no consensus reached on the appropriateness of charging individuals for rescues based on their actions.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific locations and personal experiences that may not be universally applicable, and assumptions about rescue policies may vary by region.

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I wonder if he got charged for the cost of that rescue. There are some places where you get charged if it is determined that you should have known better and not done what you did (or went hiking in a closed area, for example)...
 
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berkeman said:
I wonder if he got charged for the cost of that rescue. There are some places where you get charged if it is determined that you should have known better and not done what you did (or went hiking in a closed area, for example)...
Society's little tax on the stupid.
 
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berkeman said:
I wonder if he got charged for the cost of that rescue. There are some places where you get charged if it is determined that you should have known better and not done what you did (or went hiking in a closed area, for example)...
My Alps trip this year ended when I got hit on the ankle by a falling rock and I had to call for the rescue helicopter (first time ever). It cost CHF 4,500 (regardless of circumstances) - although that was covered by my mountain rescue insurance. Nothing is cheap in Switzerland.
 
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I was climbing the Dreieselwand, which is the snow face on the Lenzspitze when a rock came out of nowhere (I didn't even see it) and thumped me on the left ankle. I got to the summit, but the only way off is to climb the ridge on the right. I got as far as the summit of the Nadelhorn climbing on one foot and one knee by the end (actually not as hard as you'd think), but my ankle was so painful by then, that I decided not to risk the descent and aggravating the injury any further.

Lenzspitze Nadelhorn 3.jpg
 
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Hike a mountain - for the faint of heart.
Use a bicycle.

Riding the white line


 
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