Pump Transfer solutions for residual bulk removal in transfer line

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The discussion revolves around the problem of residual bulk material remaining in a discharge line after using a centrifugal pump for transferring bulk from location A to B. Participants explore potential solutions for effectively removing this remaining bulk without the option of cleaning the line after batch operations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries how to remove remaining bulk from the discharge line after pumping, noting the absence of a cleaning facility.
  • Another participant suggests using compressed air to push the remaining bulk from tank A instead of relying on the centrifugal pump.
  • A different participant provides calculations for line losses and required pump head for various flow rates and pipe sizes, arguing that air may not generate sufficient pressure for transport.
  • Further calculations indicate that for a 41m pipe with a turbulent flow, a pressure of about 50 bar would be necessary, suggesting that two compressors might be more effective in moving residual material.
  • One participant adds a humorous comment unrelated to the technical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using compressed air for bulk removal, with some calculations indicating significant pressure requirements that may not be achievable. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to tackle the problem.

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Participants reference specific calculations and assumptions related to flow rates, pipe sizes, and pressure requirements, which may not be universally applicable without further context or definitions.

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QUERY/PROBLEM(refer to the attached file)

Bulk is transferred from location A to B using a centrifugal pump. At the end of operation(when there is no bulk at the pump suction), bulk remaining in the discharge line(marked by Red) causes problem for the next batch(As next batch is of different product).

I need your suggestions on how to remove this remaining bulk to some satisfactory level ?
P.S.: There is no facility for cleaning the line after batch operation.
 

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My suggestion is to pump compressed air into tank A instead of using centrifugal pump in between.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I did calculations for the line losses & pump head required.

for
1" line, 5 m3/hr, head required is 41m
1" line, 3 m3/hr, head required is 21m
2" line, 5 m3/hr, head required is 10m

I think air would not be able to provide that high pressure for transport.
 
Anyway, current installation has only one pump, and has to produce the same pressure difference.
For 41m pipe, Reynolds number 75000, turbulent case, by quick calculations I got about 50 bar.

It may be usefull to use two different compressors. On finishing, depending on surface tension, some substance will remain on the pipe walls, and will be moved forward by the air flow. It will require less pressure, but higher flow rate.
 
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