Purpose of Residual property and Excess property in Thermodynamics

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of Residual property and Excess property in thermodynamics, focusing on their definitions, purposes, and applications in modeling non-ideal behaviors of substances.

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  • Some participants describe Residual functions as measures of deviation from ideal gas properties at the same conditions.
  • One participant mentions that Excess functions are used to modify simple models of substance behavior to account for real substance deviations.
  • A participant provides a mathematical definition of Residual properties, indicating it as the difference between actual and ideal values of thermodynamic properties.
  • Excess properties are similarly defined as the difference between actual and ideal solution properties, particularly in liquid solutions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the definition and application of Excess properties, suggesting a need for further clarification.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of Residual and Excess properties, but there is some uncertainty regarding the application and understanding of Excess properties, indicating that multiple views remain on this topic.

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Some definitions and applications may depend on specific contexts or assumptions regarding the substances being modeled, and there are unresolved questions about the broader implications of these properties in thermodynamic modeling.

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Can anybody tell me what are Residual property and Excess property in thermodynamics for?
 
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Residual functions are used to calculate properties of substances at non ideal gas states. I have never heard of the Excess property myself. Perhaps someone else can answer that for you.

Hopefully this link works:
http://books.google.com/books?id=pRWqfsVTAY8C&pg=PA369&lpg=PA369&dq=residual+functions+thermodynamics&source=web&ots=h1kEfOVg4X&sig=u3SAlNM3dmMFYfFkANDhjB47igI
 
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Excess functions are introduced in Thermodynamics to modify simple models of substance behaviour (ideal gas model, ideal mixture model, ideal solution model), to account for deviations shown in real substances.

Source: http://imartinez.etsin.upm.es/bk3/c07/Excess functions.htm

This essentially means that it is a way to "adjust" your model so that it matches the natural phenomenon that you are modeling more closely.

It's like using a polytropic process with n=1.2 instead of 1.4 to allow for losses due to a gas having thermal losses/gains or doing some amount of work, etc.
 
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Can anybody tell me what are Residual property and Excess property in thermodynamics for?

A Residual property is a a measure of the deviation from the value that some property would have for an ideal gas at the same conditions.

For example, if M is the actual value of a thermodynamic property (like the Gibbs free nergy) for a nonideal gas, and Mig is the value the property will have if the gas was ideal at the same T & P, then the residual property MR is defined as,

MR = M - Mig

Excess properties are usually used with liquid solutions, or when we want to measure deviations from a nonideal solution. The excess property is similarly defined as

ME = M - Mid

ie, the difference between the value of a thermodynamic property of the actual solution and an ideal solution at the same T,P and composition.

If you want a reference text, try Chapter 11 of "Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics" by Smith, Van Ness and Abbot.
 

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