QM Questions: Intro & Two Conceptual Issues

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The discussion revolves around conceptual questions related to quantum mechanics (QM), specifically focusing on the nature of matter waves, the implications of the uncertainty principle, and the behavior of particles in diffraction scenarios. The scope includes theoretical inquiries and conceptual clarifications.

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  • One participant questions whether an object with zero momentum would have an arbitrarily large wavelength and why its wave nature wouldn't dominate.
  • Another participant suggests that the question of zero velocity should be reconsidered in the context of quantum mechanics rather than classical mechanics.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the uncertainty principle if momentum is zero, leading to potentially infinite uncertainty in position.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the physical meaning of an object being equally likely to be found anywhere if its position uncertainty is infinitely large.
  • A further question is raised regarding the interpretation of uncertainties in position and momentum in relation to a particle's behavior while in a slit, after leaving the slit, and upon detection on a screen.

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Participants generally agree on the implications of the uncertainty principle and the nature of quantum mechanics, but there are differing interpretations regarding the specifics of momentum and position uncertainties, as well as the concept of zero velocity.

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Participants express uncertainty about the physical implications of infinite position uncertainty and the specific contexts in which uncertainties in position and momentum are being considered.

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I'm preparing for an upcoming course in QM by working out of a textbook, and I've encountered a handful of conceptual questions that I'm having trouble answering. I figured it best to ask my questions in a single thread, so as not to clutter the subforum. Also, I chose the general physics subforum because it's unlikely that I'll be asking anything that may be considered advanced physics (but feel free to move the thread if need be).

To start with:

1. The wavelength of a matter wave is, of course, given by \lambda = \frac{h}{p}. If an object has zero momentum, does its wavelength get arbitrarily large? And if so, why doesn't its wave nature dominate?

2. Let's say that a beam of electrons are moving through a single slit (with a width comparable to the wavelength of the electron). The electrons would then show up all over the screen/detector that lay behind the single slit. Could we say that the electrons show up at all places on the screen at a constant rate? Or would we only be able to speak in terms of the average rate of electron detection for any given region on the screen?

Any help is welcome and appreciated.
 
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1) This is a bit of a trick question, what you should be asking yourself, is: Is it possible for something to have something with zero velocity? (think in the quantum realm, not classical)

2) For this one, remember that quantum mechanics is all about probability.
 
Another way of saying the same thing PiratePhysicist said, IF the momentum were 0, what would the uncertainty principle say about its postition?
 
Thank you both for the replies.

HallsofIvy said:
Another way of saying the same thing PiratePhysicist said, IF the momentum were 0, what would the uncertainty principle say about its postition?

If the momentum were zero, there would be zero uncertainty in the object's momentum, which would make the uncertainty in the object's position infinitely large. But I'm not sure what physical concept that reveals... Does it mean that the object is equally likely to be found anywhere?
 
Yeah, so basically, it's impossible to have something with zero velocity.
 
That makes sense, thank you.

I have another question in regard to the uncertainty principle.

3. My book states "Because the width of a diffraction pattern, related to \Delta p_x, is inversely proportional to the slit width, related to \Delta x, the uncertainties are inversely proportional. (using the example of a single slit pattern).

So my question is, when we're speaking of uncertainties in position and momentum, are we speaking of (a) the uncertainty in the position & momentum of the particle while it's in the slit? (b) the uncertainty in the position & momentum of the particle just after it leaves the slit? (c) the uncertainty in the position & momentum of the particle once it registers on the screen? Or (d) (As I believe the quote above implies) the uncertainty in the position of the particle while it's in the slit, and the uncertainty of the momentum of the particle as it registers on the screen?

Again, any help is appreciated.
 

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