Quadratic Equations: Homework on Non-Real Roots

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Homework Statement


Let a,b,c be real numbers with a>0 such that the quadratic equation ##ax^2+bcx+b^3+c^3-4abc=0## has non real roots. Let ##P(x)=ax^2+bx+c## and ##Q(x)=ax^2+cx+b##. Which of the following is true?
a) ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)<0 \forall x \in R##
b) ##P(x)<0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
c) neither ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## nor ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
d) exactly one of P(x) or Q(x) is positive for all real x.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The first equation has non real roots which its discriminant is less than zero.
[tex]b^2c^2-4a(b^3+c^3-4abc<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow b^2c^2-4ab^3-4ac^3+16a^2bc<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow b^2(c^2-4ab)-4ac(c^2-4ab)<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow (b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0[/tex]

##b^2-4ac## is the discriminant of P(x) and ##c^2-4ab## is the discriminant for Q(x) and both the discriminants are less than which means both P(x) and Q(x) are greater than zero for all ##x \in R##.

But there is no option which matches my conclusion.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


Let a,b,c be real numbers with a>0 such that the quadratic equation ##ax^2+bcx+b^3+c^3-4abc=0## has non real roots. Let ##P(x)=ax^2+bx+c## and ##Q(x)=ax^2+cx+b##. Which of the following is true?
a) ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)<0 \forall x \in R##
b) ##P(x)<0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
c) neither ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## nor ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
d) exactly one of P(x) or Q(x) is positive for all real x.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The first equation has non real roots which its discriminant is less than zero.
[tex]b^2c^2-4a(b^3+c^3-4abc<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow b^2c^2-4ab^3-4ac^3+16a^2bc<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow b^2(c^2-4ab)-4ac(c^2-4ab)<0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow (b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0[/tex]

##b^2-4ac## is the discriminant of P(x) and ##c^2-4ab## is the discriminant for Q(x) and both the discriminants are less than which means both P(x) and Q(x) are greater than zero for all ##x \in R##.
##(b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0## means that one of the discriminants is negative, and the other is positive.
 
jbunniii said:
##(b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0## means that one of the discriminants is negative, and the other is positive.

Oh yes, thanks! :smile:

This means that the answer is c?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Oh yes, thanks! :smile:

This means that the answer is c?
If one of the discriminants is positive, that means the corresponding quadratic has real roots, right? So it can't be c.
 
jbunniii said:
If one of the discriminants is positive, that means the corresponding quadratic has real roots, right? So it can't be c.

Woops, I meant d, I switched the options in my mind. :redface: