Quadrupole tensor for spherical star (schutz ch9q28))

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The problem involves calculating the quadrupole tensor \( I_{jk} \) and its traceless counterpart \( \overline{I}_{jk} \) for a spherical star with a density \( \rho(r, t) \). The original poster is working with equations related to the tensor's definition and is attempting to perform the integration in spherical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the components of the quadrupole tensor using spherical coordinates, expressing \( I^{jk} \) in terms of the density function. They raise concerns about discrepancies between their results and the expected answer from the textbook.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the transformation from Cartesian to spherical coordinates, specifically addressing the expression for \( x_1 x_1 \). The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the mathematical setup and potential misunderstandings in the integration process.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the interpretation of the tensor components, indicating a need for further clarification on the integration in spherical coordinates.

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Homework Statement



28. Calculate the quadrupole tensor I_{jk} and its traceless counterpart \overline{I}_{jk} (Eq. (9.78)) for the following mass distributions.
(a) A spherical star whose density is \rho(r, t). Take the origin of the coordinates in Eq. (9.73) to be the center of the star.

Homework Equations



(9.78)
I^{jk}=\int T^{00}x^ix^jd^3x

(9.73)
\overline{I}_{jk}=I_{jk}-\frac{1}{3}\delta_{jk}I^l_l

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, first of all T^{00}=\rho
so 9.78 becomes
I^{jk}=\int \rho(r,t)x^ix^jd^3x
and then it should just be a simple case of integrating using spherical polars...right?

so for I^{11} I should have
I^{11}=\int^r_0\int^{2\pi}_0\int^{\pi}_0 \rho(r,t)r^2 r^2sin\theta d\theta d\phi dr
=\int^r_0\int^{2\pi}_0 2 \rho(r,t)r^4 d\phi dr
=\int^r_0 4\pi \rho(r,t)r^4dr
=4\pi \int^r_0 \rho(r,t)r^4 dr


and to me all seems to have gone well, but the answer in the back of the book is
=\frac{4\pi}{3} \delta^{ij} \int^r_0 \rho(r,t)r^4 dr

which is close, but not the same. If I look at other components of I they are nothing like this at all! even the components with different j & k don't vanish!

I'm obviously completely misunderstanding something here...
 
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When you change to spherical coordinates, x1x1 will become r2sin2(θ)cos2(φ), not r2.
 
Just to clarify a little bit, x1 = x = r⋅sin(θ)cos(φ), so x1x1 = [r⋅sin(θ)cos(φ)]2.

The transformation equations from Cartesian to spherical are

x = r⋅sin(θ)cos(φ)
y = r⋅sin(θ)sin(φ)
z = r⋅cos(θ)
 
Oh dear... yes you are right...
how silly of me :redface:
Thanks dx.
 

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