Quantifying Acceleration in Non-Perpendicular Torque Systems

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The discussion revolves around quantifying acceleration in systems where torque is applied at non-perpendicular angles to the radius. Participants explore the relationship between torque, angular acceleration, and the role of motors in maintaining constant acceleration in such scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between static torque and the acceleration of a body distant from the rotational axis, questioning how to quantify this acceleration when the gravitational force is not perpendicular to the radius.
  • Another participant suggests that a suitable motor and control system can achieve the desired acceleration, implying that the problem may relate to determining the variable driving torque needed for constant angular acceleration.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the intended meaning of the torque expression C(θ) and its relevance to the original problem description.
  • One participant clarifies that gravitational acceleration (g) is a constant and emphasizes the importance of considering the component of g that acts perpendicular to the radius.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the correctness of the torque expression. Multiple competing views regarding the role of motors and the nature of gravitational force in the context of torque exist.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of torque and the specific conditions under which the acceleration is being quantified. The discussion also lacks clarity on the mathematical steps involved in deriving the relationship between torque and acceleration.

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Hi,
I'm making some confusion about statistical and dynamic behavior.
if i have a body distant from the rotational axis, i have a static torque for maintaining it on position (i suppose ##\vec g \perp \vec r##).
But if a supply more torque i accellerate the body. How can i quantify this accelleration? it will be not constant because ##\vec g## is no more perpendicular to ##\vec r##.
i would obtain ##C(\theta)=mg(\theta)r+I\ddot \theta##. How can a motor mantain a constant accelleration?
 
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Andrea Vironda said:
How can a motor mantain a constant accelleration

I don't understand the problem - a suitable choice of motor and control system will do anything that you want it to do .

Is your question really meant to be about how to determine the variable driving torque needed to maintain a constant angular acceleration ?
 
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Nidum said:
I don't understand the problem - a suitable choice of motor and control system will do anything that you want it to do .

Is your question really meant to be about how determine the variable driving torque needed to maintain a constant angular acceleration ?
i would to know if my expression in ##C(\theta)## is correct
 
What do you intend your expression C(theta) to represent?

Where does a motor enter into the problem as originally described?
 
hi, ##C## is a torque, ##coppia## in italian language. It's the torque expression as ##f(\theta)##
 
You need to understand that g is not a function of theta; g is a constant. What you need is the component of g that acts perpendicular to the radius. Draw a diagram with labels and it should all become clear.
 

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