Quantum Entanglement and Parallel Worlds/Existence

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of quantum entanglement (QE) and its implications, particularly regarding the existence of replicas of particles in the universe. Participants explore the definitions and interpretations of QE, its requirements, and the sources of their understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that QE implies each particle has an equivalent entangled particle elsewhere in the universe, leading to the idea of exact replicas of everything on Earth.
  • Another participant clarifies that not all quantum systems must be entangled and that entangled systems do not have to be equivalent, using the example of an electron and a proton in a hydrogen atom.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of using credible sources for learning about QE, with suggestions for textbooks over popular science articles.
  • One participant warns against relying on phrases like "spooky action at a distance," suggesting that such terminology may indicate a lack of scientific rigor in the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of QE, particularly regarding the existence of replicas and the nature of entanglement. There is no consensus on these interpretations, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding based on the sources of information, with some advocating for more rigorous academic resources to grasp the complexities of quantum mechanics and entanglement.

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Hey! I'm new to the forums so its nice to be here. I don't have a deep deep background in physics (I plan to self study after I finish my math studies). However, I recently learned about the notion of quantum entanglement. My basic understanding of it is that quantum entanglement (will use QE from now on) suggests that each particle in the universe has an equivalent entangled particle elsewhere in the universe.

My question is, given this notion of QE, doesn't that confirm that somewhere in the universe there is an exact replica of everything that exists on earth? Unless maybe I'm misunderstanding something. My guess would be the misunderstanding comes in the placement of the particles, so while there does exist a replica, the particles are disbursed and therefore don't make up a single object?

Either way, curious to hear what folks in the forum think!
 
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giodude said:
I'm new to the forums so its nice to be here.
Welcome!

giodude said:
My basic understanding of it is that quantum entanglement (will use QE from now on) suggests that each particle in the universe has an equivalent entangled particle elsewhere in the universe.
That's not quite what QE means. Quantum systems can be entangled, but there is no requirement that every quantum system must be entangled with some other one. Also, two quantum systems that are entangled don't have to be "equivalent". (For example, an electron can be entangled with a proton--this is in fact the case for a hydrogen atom.)
 
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giodude said:
I recently learned about the notion of quantum entanglement.
Can you give a specific reference for where you learned about it? That will help us to gauge your background knowledge.
 
PeterDonis said:
Can you give a specific reference for where you learned about it? That will help us to gauge your background knowledge.
I learned about it from this article and then started doing some research via google searches and discussions with some friends and family that know a bit about it as well. Nothing extensive yet.
 
PeterDonis said:
Welcome!That's not quite what QE means. Quantum systems can be entangled, but there is no requirement that every quantum system must be entangled with some other one. Also, two quantum systems that are entangled don't have to be "equivalent". (For example, an electron can be entangled with a proton--this is in fact the case for a hydrogen atom.)
Thank you!

Oh I see, makes it even more interesting that systems can be entangled and don't have to be equivalent. Will learn more about it and be back when I'm more informed!
 
giodude said:
I learned about it from this article and then started doing some research via google searches and discussions with some friends and family that know a bit about it as well. Nothing extensive yet.
A good QM textbook would be a better source for learning since that would give you (a) a better technical definition of entanglement, and (b) the background in the actual math of QM that allows you to understand the technical definition and its practical implications. Pop science articles don't do a good job of actually explaining these things in a way that lets you build on it to increase your own understanding.

I personally think Ballentine is a good QM textbook to learn from, but there are many of them and everyone has their own preferences.
 
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giodude said:
I learned about it from this article and then started doing some research via google searches and discussions with some friends and family that know a bit about it as well. Nothing extensive yet.
If you see the phrase "spooky action at a distance", you can assume what you are reading is more BS than QM!

Instead of reading scientific journalism (which is not science), you could start here:

http://physics.mq.edu.au/~jcresser/Phys304/Handouts/QuantumPhysicsNotes.pdf
 
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