Quantum mechanics eigenstate transitions

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a particle transitioning between eigenstates in an infinite potential well. Participants are tasked with calculating the energy released during the transition from the third eigenstate to the second eigenstate, as well as determining the wavelength of the emitted light based on given energy values and parameters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of energy released as the difference between the two eigenstate energies. There is uncertainty regarding the relevance of the well width and mass of the particle. Some participants explore the relationship between energy and wavelength using de Broglie relations and the momentum-energy relationship for photons.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some participants confirming their results align with others. Questions about the appropriateness of the obtained wavelength and its implications for being classified as light are raised, indicating a productive dialogue about the underlying physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific values for the mass of the particle and the width of the well, which are critical to the calculations. There is a noted discrepancy in the energy values and the interpretation of the results, leading to further questioning of assumptions and definitions.

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Homework Statement


Explain what happens when a particle transitions from the 3rd eigenstate to the second eigenstate. If the total energy in the 3rd eigenstate is 2.47x10^19J and the energy in the 2nd eigenstate is 1.1x10^-19J calculate the energy released and the wavelength of the emitted light if the mass is 2x10^-30kg and the width of the well is 1x10^-10kg.

Homework Equations


E_{tot}=\frac{n^{2}h^{2}}{8mD^{2}}

The Attempt at a Solution


So the energy released is simply the difference between the energy in the 3rd and the second eigenstates?
 
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I would agree with you. They have already given you the energy of the two levels (although I think you have miss-typed one of the energies as 10^19J). So I don't know why they also give you the width of the well and the mass of the particle... Also, you have written the mass of the particle twice.
 
Thanks, just adjusted the well width.

When it is asking for the wavelength of the emitted light I'm kinda figuring that since:

λ = h/p (the deBroglie wavelength)

And p = mv

Then I could use the resultant energy released in the equation E = 1/2 mv^2 rearranged for v and then put into p = mv.

This would then give me the figures to calculate λ= h/p and give me the wavelength?

Thing is, the figure that I get is less than 1nm... Not exactly the wavelength light is it - that is why I'm dubious of my method
 
first off, looking at the energy calculation, I get of the order of 10^-17, not 10^-19... Is that width of the well meant to be in meters?
 
shyguy79 said:
Thanks, just adjusted the well width.

When it is asking for the wavelength of the emitted light I'm kinda figuring that since:

λ = h/p (the deBroglie wavelength)

And p = mv

Secondly, this is not right, because we are talking about a photon, which has no mass. The relation between momentum and energy for a photon is thankfully much simpler, what is that relation?

EDIT: although, your equation for the deBroglie wavelength is right, the second equation is not right.
 
This is the actual wording of the assignment:

The mass of the particle in the infinite well is 2.00 × 10−30 kg, and the width of the well is 1.00 × 10−9 m. If the particle makes a transition from the third eigenstate to the second eigenstate, what will be the wavelength of the emitted light?

Ahhhh! The relationship is E=pc for a massless photon isn't it!? So P=E/c...
 
Putting the two together comes out at 1.45μm for the wavelength... Not exactly light? Has something gone wrong here?
 
shyguy79 said:
This is the actual wording of the assignment:

The mass of the particle in the infinite well is 2.00 × 10−30 kg, and the width of the well is 1.00 × 10−9 m. If the particle makes a transition from the third eigenstate to the second eigenstate, what will be the wavelength of the emitted light?

Oh good, when I use that value for the width of the well, I get the same answer as you.
 
shyguy79 said:
Ahhhh! The relationship is E=pc for a massless photon isn't it!? So P=E/c...

Yep, that's the right equation
 
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shyguy79 said:
Putting the two together comes out at 1.45μm for the wavelength... Not exactly light? Has something gone wrong here?

It wouldn't necessarily have to be light, it could be any part of the EM spectrum. I got the same answer as you, so I think you have done it right.
 

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