Quantum Mechanics (Wien’s displacement law)

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the maximum of the Planck energy density occurs at a wavelength defined by the equation λmax = b/T, where T represents temperature and b is a constant. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics, specifically relating to Planck's law of black-body radiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the relationship between frequency and wavelength, particularly how to differentiate the function v = c/λ with respect to λ. There is confusion regarding the application of the chain rule and the interpretation of differentials in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the differentiation process and the correct application of the chain rule. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted potential misunderstandings regarding the notation of differentials and derivatives, as well as the implications of the negative sign in the derivative. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the material, indicating a learning phase in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


Show that the maximum of the Planck energy density occurs for a wavelength of the form λmax = b/T, where T is the temperature and b is a constant that needs to be estimated.

Homework Equations


Planck energy density
u (v,T) = 8πv2 / c3 * hv / ehv/kT-1

The Attempt at a Solution



v= c / λ
dv = |dv / (dλ)| dλ = (c/λ2) dλ

I get up to this bit and I'm stuck...

v= c / λ
c = v*λ
∴ v = v*λ / λ
dv = dv*dλ / dλ
dv = (dv / dλ) * dλ

I'm confused how dv = |dv / (dλ)| dλ turns into (c/λ2) dλ. Sorry if my question is a bit vague -- haven't posted on here in a while and I just started taking QM.
 
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Homework Statement


Show that the maximum of the Planck energy density occurs for a wavelength of the form λmax = b/T, where T is the temperature and b is a constant that needs to be estimated.

Homework Equations


Planck energy density
u (v,T) = 8πv2 / c3 * hv / ehv/kT-1

The Attempt at a Solution



v= c / λ
dv = |dv / (dλ)| dλ = (c/λ2) dλ

I get up to this bit and I'm stuck...

v= c / λ
c = v*λ
∴ v = v*λ / λ
dv = dv*dλ / dλ
dv = (dv / dλ) * dλ

I'm confused how dv = |dv / (dλ)| dλ turns into (c/λ2) dλ. Sorry if my question is a bit vague -- haven't posted on here in a while and I just started taking QM.
The absolute value marks are wrong in your equation.
d means differential, and dv/dλ is the derivative of v with respect to λ. d is not a multiplicative factor!
v is function of λ, and u(v,T)=F(v(λ),T). v=c/λ(v). You have to apply the chain rule to find the λ, where the u( λ) plot has its maximum:
dF/dλ = df/dv dv/dλ.
v=c/ λ, what is its derivative with respect to λ?
 
v=c/ λ, what is its derivative with respect to λ?

dv = ( c / λ2 )
 
v=c/ λ, what is its derivative with respect to λ?
dv = ( c / λ2 ) dλ
 
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v=c/ λ, what is its derivative with respect to λ?

dv = ( c / λ2 )

No, the derivative is written as ##\frac{dv}{dλ}##
In the derivative, you miss a minus sign.
 

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